Why does everybody hate lagers?

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  1. Donovanj

    Donovanj Devotee (371) Mar 21, 2018 Georgia

    "ILL" - for "Industrial Light Lager" That term fits so much better than AAL!
     
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  2. Donovanj

    Donovanj Devotee (371) Mar 21, 2018 Georgia

    A "cold bud" will never work for me, and it has nothing to do with being jaded. Why would I drink that swill when there are so many alternatives? A refreshing glass of water is miles above any AAL!

    Looking at the list of AAL: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/style/38/
    I can't find one of these I would drink over a glass of water/tea/soft drink etc.
     
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  3. mrmattosgood

    mrmattosgood Maven (1,301) Nov 6, 2010 Canada (BC)

    I started drinking craft beer when I walked into Ballast Point homebrew mart near the campus of USD in 2004. This drinking journey (and, yeah, I'm fine with calling it a journey) has led me to some wonderful beer experiences: Side Project, Allagash, Hill Farmstead, tasting cellared bottles at Toronado and DFH, private tours of great breweries.

    But I'm really glad that I never once reached a point in my life where I'd turn down a Miller Lite or a Bud at a party because "I don't drink that crap."

    To add to the original post: If I had a fridge full of Suarez Palatine, HF Mary, and Jack's Abby Dinkel Herb and it stayed that way forever, I'd never drink another ale again.
     
  4. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,285) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    This beer now flanks my homestate to the south. I'm so hopeful we get Yuengling next. We're right on the divide.

    Long gone are the days of college team mates from Pennslyvania hauling back a backseat full of the stuff, it's now available within a 3 hour one-way drive. In fact, I may be in Arkansas for Labor Day weekend and a spot of camping. May pick up a case of cans for that journey.

    Cheers!
     
  5. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Man, if I had a fridge always full of those three it would be amazing!

    Of course, in my case, I'd also have to have another fridge, or two, for the ales, saisons, and wilds made by Suarez, Hill Farmstead, and Jack's Abby (Springdale). :grin:
     
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  6. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    eh, Im not sold its a generational thing. Lots of people who are from the younger generations (myself included) enjoy a cold AAL.
    One man's swill is another's mans golden suds ... but seriously, everyone's tastes are different ... There are actually quite a few beers on that list (looking at the top 100) I have and will continue to drink and enjoy. And I'd certainly drink anything on that list over a soft drink ... :stuck_out_tongue:
     
  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Yuengling Traditional Lager is not an all malt brew; it is brewed using adjuncts (corn).

    Cheers!
     
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  8. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Surprisingly it’s not one of the AALs in my rotation. Amber beers really aren’t my thing , they usually come off as being a tad sweeter than their pale brothers. But I’ve had a ton in my day and hit NC like a hurricane back in the day. I wouldn’t be shocked if it’s the top selling beer in its class without getting into beers like Bud Light. It’s definatly not fizzy yellow water. But there’s a few AALs that are quite good in and by themselves.
     
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  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Dale, I agree with you here. I enjoy drinking a Yuengling Lager from time to time but it definitely is on the sweeter side for my palate. My favorite AAL from Yuengling is Lord Chesterfield.

    Cheers!
     
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  10. islay

    islay Savant (1,211) Jan 6, 2008 Minnesota

    "American Adjunct Lager" seems to me to be mainly a BeerAdvocate term. I'm not saying BeerAdvocate invented it or is the sole user of it, although I do bet much of the modern usage of the term outside of this site stems from its frequent employment here. I long have been active at the other site, and, over there, we never spoke of "American Adjunt Lagers" or "AALs" unless we were making a specific reference to this site. At the other site, the preferred term for both AALs and what this site calls "American Pale Lagers" is "Pale Lagers," with the presence or absence of malt adjuncts being irrelevant to the definition.
     
  11. THANAT0PSIS

    THANAT0PSIS Pooh-Bah (2,275) Aug 3, 2010 Wisconsin
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    I'd take several of those over basically any drink that isn't coffee or tea (and I'd take coffee or tea over most beers, to be honest).

    PBR, Hamm's, Miller High Life, Coors Banquet, Narragansett, Upland Champagne Velvet, Surly #Merica, Sierra Nevada Sierraveza, Urban Chestnut Urban Underdog (which is categorized under American Pale Lager, though it should be under American Adjunct Lager on this site), and even Founders Solid Gold are all good to great beers, and they definitely don't all taste the same.

    To each their own, of course, but AALs are woefully underrated in my opinion.
     
  12. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    I think the term "swill" is the beer discussion corollary to Godwin's Law.
     
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  13. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    There's a time and place for most everything, and I'd certinly say AAL are far better than just lawnmower beers. I think guys get caught up in the "I'm a craft guy" and everything else is lousy. There's bad beers out there, but Budweiser and Miler are not among them, actually besides Steel Reserve some of the worst beers I've ever had were from craft breweries. AALs are simple harmless, and just easy to drink, I don't think anyone thinks they'll compete with Prima or Urquell, but I don't see anyone saying that either. Sometimes I'd rather buy a $12 case of Hams vs a $15 12 pack or Pils Urquell.
     
  14. FatBoyGotSwagger

    FatBoyGotSwagger Grand Pooh-Bah (3,999) Apr 4, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I agree with everything you said right up to the last sentence. Pilsner Urquell is remarkable, Hamm's isn't bad but shouldn't be compared to PU.
     
  15. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    In the post-Repeal US brewing industry the term was occasionally used, as in this example of "malt-adjunct beers" and "malt-adjunct ales" - "beer", of course, for most of the same period in the US understood to mean "lager beer".
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    (Hopefully the above chart won't upset some posters with the by-then US industry convention of listing "porter" and "stout" under "ALES" :astonished:).

    But, until the "craft era", since it was pretty much a given that a US beer or ale was brewed with adjuncts unless otherwise stated, it is more common to find the term "all-malt beer" to describe the few exceptions that existed.

    When proposing the Federal labeling regulations in the years immediately after Repeal, the brewing industry objected to the original Government definition of "MALT BEER" for beers brewed without adjuncts:
     
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  16. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    You misread, I separated out the AALs from great beers like Urquell and Prima.
     
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  17. KentT

    KentT Pundit (839) Oct 15, 2008 Tennessee

    I like Lagers, and Pilsners. I drink as much of them or more than I do other styles. This present season, is Marzen heaven to my palate in a sea of Double Nuclear IPA or higher hop bombs (I like them occasionally)
     
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  18. Donovanj

    Donovanj Devotee (371) Mar 21, 2018 Georgia

    My question is why isn't Yuengling in the AAL catagory???
     
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  19. EmperorBatman

    EmperorBatman Zealot (741) Mar 16, 2018 Tennessee

    Because it is an amber-colored beer that uses some darker malts. AAL tends to imply pale-colored lagers. Similarly, Dos Equis Ambar and Negra Modelo both are categorized as Vienna Lagers but also have adjuncts.
     
  20. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    This is Yuengling's AAL - YUENGLING PREMIUM (their flagship beer before creating the Traditional Lager in the late 1980s).

    Now, the next question should be "...why isn't Yuengling Premium in the AAL catagory?" since the American Pale Lager category description clearly says:
     
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