Controversial Beer Opinions Thread

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Kraz, Feb 14, 2018.

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  1. 2ellas

    2ellas Maven (1,302) Feb 20, 2014 New Hampshire
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    I couldn't agree more with your take on social media. I don't think it's just beer morons posting how awesome their beer is, I think it's also regular morons that feel the need to post how awesome every little aspect of their life is at all times complete with pictures and descriptions.


    Which leads me to this, if it's annoying, why sift through all of the stupidity?

    Also, I disagree with your take on old IPAs! Especially because there are so many local sources for fresh IPAs available. Though many folks local results may vary, I can't imagine there aren't at least a couple good local options.

    Not trying to pick on you (or anyone) specifically as there were a bunch of people complaining about hazebros or whatever they're calling them.
     
  2. islay

    islay Savant (1,211) Jan 6, 2008 Minnesota

    "Better a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without." - Confucius
     
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  3. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    :slight_frown:
     
  4. Ahonky

    Ahonky Initiate (0) Feb 13, 2018 New York

    You're right. My choice of words was lazy
     
  5. jhavs

    jhavs Grand Pooh-Bah (3,587) Apr 16, 2015 New York
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    I bet you would love this description from Rushing Duck:

    Divided by Zero - 6.8%abv - “Imperial Session, Pale-Black IPA” aka an intensely hoppy IPA. It uses 5.5 pounds of hops per barrel, the most hops we use in a regularly released beer. We use primarily Pilsner malt, allowing the hops to be the main focus, and giving the beer a light, straw-like color. This combined with relatively low bitterness makes this IPA surprisingly drinkable. We change the variety of hops every time, making each batch unique. This beer will show up sporadically; look at it like a happy surprise. "Oh, hello old friend!" you'll say.

    Adds the Pale-Black IPA to further confuse.
     
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  6. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    Some people are just sick in the head.

    That does remind me how much I hoped the golden stout trend would catch on, I really enjoyed those beers
     
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  7. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,285) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    Side Project Cellar has two and has been keeping both in operation for a while. Unfortunately, the only other place in the state I can think of with a cask handle is Bier Station, and I have never seen it in use....

    The idea of it might seem strange to Americans. We've been trained to drink cold beer ("best beer is a cold beer", "cracking cold ones with the boys", "coldest beer cave in the county", etc. etc.), so to pay for a room temperature beer is counter-intuitive to many. Some of my coworkers tell me they put a Boulevard Radler or two in the freezer so by the time they're done mowing, they have a beer slushy. :astonished:
     
  8. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Well, that description is just a spoof- it's really just an IPA.
     
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  9. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    Just like the National Car Rental spokes guy. That dude has authority to spare!
     
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  10. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    I have had better experiences across the board drinking beer in English pubs. No matter where. It is a different piece of culture that I dearly love.
     
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  11. jhavs

    jhavs Grand Pooh-Bah (3,587) Apr 16, 2015 New York
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    Yes, and a pretty good one too! (at least the versions I have tried)
     
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  12. Ahonky

    Ahonky Initiate (0) Feb 13, 2018 New York

    It is a term that goes well back into history. Would you rather some say "beers below 4.0 ABV"? Bit of a mouthful.

    Session IPAs have zero in common with Budweiser. That is not an argument for or against Budweiser or Session IPAs. Session IPAs can be watery - but having low ABV options is a good thing, especially for people who don't get moronically drunk. The real problem is that everyone is/were buying session IPAs because many "craft" beer drinking Americans are ******ed and can't seem to get into anything outside of the realm of IPAs. Care to argue that? Look at the top 500
     
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  13. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Agreed.

    Not sure if a lot of them have an extra chromosome or not, but they certainly seem to lack the capacity to think for themselves.
     
  14. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    Black IPA was first mentioned around 1880. To clarify,Pale Ale just means ale brewed using Pale Malt.
     
  15. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    Exactly. Session beer is an English designation for beers with lower alcohol levels that are generally flavorful and easy to toss back. Guiness being Irish fits this category. I've had a number of these milds and bitters that were very good beers. A session beer need not be flavorless, but five pints will not kick your ass. It does often seem to me that a good number of Americans think that everything "Beer" radiates from modern American beer culture. It ain't so!
     
  16. Roadkizzle

    Roadkizzle Initiate (0) Nov 6, 2007 Texas

    The problem is that I find that people aren't turning down pebbles in favor of flawed diamonds.

    People are turning down flawless diamonds because other breweries are putting out a number more flawed ones.

    People get excited because they see a guava kölsch but will turn their noses up at a basic pale ale or schwarzbier. (Basic examples but still).

    They'd rather go to a brewery whose beers are full of acetaldehyde or astringency because they put new flawed beers on every week instead of one across the street with solid standard IPA or bready floral helles.
     
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  17. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Sure it seems that way, but if their only experience is with American beer culture they have no other real basis for thinking about beer and beer culture. However, this is not a uniquely American trait. As you know there are people in European countries who have the exact same mind set about their own culture and experiences with beer.
     
  18. Lahey

    Lahey Initiate (0) Nov 12, 2016 Michigan

    Outside of this site, I'd venture to assume that 95% of people have wildly inaccurate views on beer culture. When I was going to visit germany, a lot of people I know seemed to think I'd be drinking high abv and/or dark beer the whole time. Nothing could be further from the truth of course. There was also the assumption that germany has "better beer" than us (it's not a contest of better or worse, just different)
     
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  19. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Americans. We're the worst.
     
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  20. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    The basic gist is that a great deal of people, even self-proclaimed beer geeks, don't know very much about what constitutes "good beer". The sad part about that is a great deal of them don't want to learn what it is either.
     
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