AB-InBev event with 'craft' beer available

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  1. HopsAreDaMan

    HopsAreDaMan Initiate (0) Jul 28, 2015 Missouri

    I recently attended an AB-inBev event in STL. They had many beers from their own portfolio on tap to try from some of their American craft breweries that they bought out over the years (Breckenridge, Kona, Golden Road, Devil's Backbone, Goose Island, Elysian, Four Peaks, Karbach). I went to the event mostly because I wanted to try some beers that are not available for distribution in Missouri, but also because I wanted to judge how some of the beers in their portfolio--the styles I typically drink--stack up to the beers from independent craft breweries that are widely available in Missouri.

    Below are my own judgements/perspectives about the event and the beers they had to offer and is based on my own experience. It's not anywhere near all inclusive of the beers they produce (over 400, I think).

    I am glad AB-InBev had an event that was open to the general public (it was a free event, including free parking) and that makes good beer available to the general public. To their credit, they had a water station so you could quickly and easily fill up your glass with water. That impressed me, as I try my best to stay hydrated while drinking and not many events accommodate that need. Of the beers I sampled (including from the ones my significant other had), one was incredible (BCBS 2017), one was good, and the rest were, at best, mediocre.

    The feel of the event itself was lacking in any sense of a passion in sharing good beer. "Oh, hey, you want a beer? Here you are. Next!" I appreciate free beer when I get it, and I am not knocking the workers. There simply seemed to be a lack of connection that I feel when visiting local breweries and local brewpubs.

    Perhaps you are thinking, "Well, Duh!? Dude, it was an AB-InBev event, held at their monolithic brewing factory." I get that. After being at this somewhat industrialized event, I realize that while some may be willing to pay for good beer, and good beer is, well good beer, for me the quality of the interactions of the people that handle the beer matters to me as well. I realize it's a business like any other, and the brewers need to make a profit like any other business. Still, I don't think AB-InBev or any other large beer conglomerate can ever corner the market on meaningful interactions.

    The good sides to the event? Folks that may not normally want to pay for a well-crafted and tasty beer were getting exposed to craft beer. Perhaps they will be willing to pay a little more for one in the future; perhaps they will be wiling to pay for beer brewed from an independent brewer. Who knows?

    Your thoughts?
     
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  2. deleted_user_1007501

    deleted_user_1007501 Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2015

    There’s always gonna be two sides to the coin.

    But the genuine interactions seem like the tipping point that will inevitably bring someone back to supporting a product/brewery.

    Some people choose function over form, and that’s okay. It sounds like they put together a really solid and well-planned event.

    AB InBev doesn’t really need to “corner” any market being the behemoth that they are. But having positive interactions and connections with genuinely good people is certainly irreplaceable, and hopefully it continues to bring support to local establishments.
     
  3. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    No Wicked Weed at the event?
     
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  4. HopsAreDaMan

    HopsAreDaMan Initiate (0) Jul 28, 2015 Missouri

    -- Well stated.

    Yes, It was a well-planned event. And some of the interactions seemed genuine. Karbach Brewing, based in Texas, had an OK tasting IPA, and a decent tasting Radler, but I especially remember the enthusiasm of the employees, and how well they set up their tasting booth--it had lots of character (including having a working Ms. Pac-Man video game and a working juke box).

    I guess I am a little surprised at how important the quality of the interactions vs the quality of beer was to me. Normally, when I got out to buy/drink beer, both are of quality, but when one is not, it really stands out. And, it's not like one is necessarily more important then the other. The quality of the beer, interactions, price, availability, etc. are all important. Yet, the more subtle differences in how heavily I weigh each of those can make a difference. Sometimes I don't even know those differences exist within myself until I am with faced making a choice.
     
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  5. HopsAreDaMan

    HopsAreDaMan Initiate (0) Jul 28, 2015 Missouri

    No, not all of the domestic craft breweries they bought out were present. Still, it was impressive how many breweries/beers were represented: Devils Backbone, Four Peaks, Karbach, Kona, Golden Road, Elysian, Breckenridge, Goose Island, Virtue Cider, LandShark, Estrella Jalisco.
     
  6. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    Estrella Jalisco is a darn tasty beer (and cheap). I've been recommending it to my AAL/Mexian Lager drinking friends.
     
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  7. Jbuitron

    Jbuitron Aspirant (281) Sep 11, 2015 Illinois

    I attended this event as well. It was a very nice event: decent bands, a petting zoo and face paint for kids, plenty of bathrooms and not too crowded. And it was free to enter and parking. Plenty of free beer too. And bonus for the 2017 BCBS (it was fantastic).

    Regarding the interactions, I was there very early in the day when the crowd was extremely light. I had great interactions with the servers at the different breweries. As the crowd got bigger it did get harder. I think the nature of the fest just makes it difficult. Overall I was happy. The only money I spent was on food (which was disappointing) and I got lots of new stickers for my beer fridge. And I had free beer! I’d go again.
     
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  8. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    If I had an opportunity I would go but my expectations would be different than attending a craft fest.
     
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  9. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    It doesn't seem like an apples to apples comparison. It feels like you are comparing the vibe of a promotional beer fest to that of a brewpub. They are different animals. Beyond that, it also seems like you might be reaching a conclusion with limited data. I've certainly been handed a beer from tiny local producers and big "independents" and I wasn't met with any enthusiasm or personality... and I've also experienced the opposite from folks who sold to AB-InBev. If being a customer to a small local makes you feel like you are connecting with those owners and brewers, then yeah - that's gonna influence how warm and fuzzy you get about their business. That's just part of the equation (when/if it works out well). It's much easier to do so at that level even if it isn't always gonna work out that way.
     
  10. HopsAreDaMan

    HopsAreDaMan Initiate (0) Jul 28, 2015 Missouri

    You bring up a good point that hadn't occurred to me. The hour of the day can make a difference in how we all interact with each other. We went at the end of the day on Sunday and stayed until near the end of the event (6PM). I wasn't very crowded after about 5PM, but I am sure many of the employees were tired from working all day (and it was hot if you were in the sun).

    I agree that it was very kid friendly. And, yeah, I was shocked that they offered BSCS (with ice cream to boot). I would certainly go again as well.

    I've been at a number of events like this one at a few of the smaller, local breweries in town (Schlafly, 2nd Shift, and Urban Chestnut, for example) and they had a more--I guess the word would be--intimate feel to them. I found myself wondering what an event like that would be at Stone, Founder's or one of the other larger craft breweries. Perhaps the quality of interactions would be no different that at AB-InBev. I clearly need to get my ass out to some of those other breweries and see for myself!
     
  11. HopsAreDaMan

    HopsAreDaMan Initiate (0) Jul 28, 2015 Missouri

    I see what you're saying. I hadn't quite thought of it like that, but I think that is the case here.

    The way the booths were spread out--similar to a beer fest--was nice, in a way, in that there was plenty of room. Yet, the setup seemed disjointed: there was no real connection of one brewery to another (at least, not that I could see). And at a number of booths the staff didn't acknowledge us as we walked up--instead they often continued to talk to each other until I got their attention and asked for the beer I wanted. That was a little awkward.

    I hear you. I stated in my original post that my experience in this case is limited, and so my 'conclusion' so-to-speak is tentative, as I certainly have also had similar experiences as you mentioned above. As I stated in another post, I would like to go to a similar type of event at a few other large breweries like Stone, Sierra Nevada, or Founders to get a better idea if it's just the size of the event, or if it's something about AB-InBev.

    Thanks for offering up your perspective.
     
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  12. ryan1788a5

    ryan1788a5 Pooh-Bah (2,062) Nov 27, 2009 Massachusetts
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    Easily accessible water stations should be a given at any self-respecting beer fest.
     
  13. ryan1788a5

    ryan1788a5 Pooh-Bah (2,062) Nov 27, 2009 Massachusetts
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    I’m wondering if the booths were staffed by actual brewery reps/brewery employees specific to each particular brewery? Did you ask? I’m guessing they were either employees of the St. Louis brewery or were paid tasting or promo people. Can’t imagine all these breweries having St. Louis based reps or AB flying staff out there just for this. It sounds like this was just a fest AB farted out as more or less a larger-scale sampling/promo type of event. If that is the case, I certainly wouldn’t expect to have the type of meaningful connections you are looking for.
     
  14. DISKORD

    DISKORD Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2017 South Carolina

    Do we really need threads praising AB/InBev?
     
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  15. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    How many craft breweries that you know of are doing free events for their communities?
     
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  16. DISKORD

    DISKORD Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2017 South Carolina

    "For their communities"? Really? They don't give a shit about communities. And they can afford to have free events. They're just trying lure people in.
     
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  17. DVMin98

    DVMin98 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,125) Nov 1, 2010 North Carolina
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    Capitalism
     
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  18. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Which thread are you referring to? Certainly not this one.
     
  19. donspublic

    donspublic Grand Pooh-Bah (3,552) Aug 4, 2014 Texas
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    That could have been a proximity thing. Houston being closer than the other breweries they might have actually sent up employees. Not knowing anything about the event, can't say. But the Karbach tasting room/beer garden is a pretty well run thing and they have been known to have good interactions with consumers. I haven't been in several years but my daughters love going there and take their out of town visitors when they go because of this very reason.
     
  20. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Maybe they should have sold $20 4-packs of pounders? That seems to endear other breweries to their communities, right?
     
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