Trade Value Thread (TVT) Quarter 4 2018

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  1. Bum4ever

    Bum4ever Pooh-Bah (1,838) Jan 18, 2017 California
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    Last time I saw one move it was about 4.5 times a VR.
     
  2. David55555

    David55555 Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2017 Texas
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    How long ago was that?
     
  3. Bum4ever

    Bum4ever Pooh-Bah (1,838) Jan 18, 2017 California
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    About 2 months.
     
  4. dranthony2012

    dranthony2012 Zealot (698) Dec 12, 2013 California
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    Ok how about in terms of just FOb4 then....what’s the ratio for a bottle of NATH?
     
  5. MKE_Hopspur

    MKE_Hopspur Devotee (398) Mar 15, 2017 Wisconsin
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    I would think this would be 2:1 FOb4 to Nath, but someone correct me if I'm wrong. Someone could argue that Nath may need a small plus, but since you'd be trading up I don't see Nath needing one. Just my 2 cents.
     
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  6. JFresh21

    JFresh21 Savant (1,036) Mar 6, 2012 Illinois
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    3-4 if you are patient.
     
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  7. odcardinal

    odcardinal Zealot (690) Apr 12, 2015 Florida
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    The issue is there are only a handful left and those holding them have traded for them to drink or are waiting to drink them. So it’s going to take something special for them to trade it.
     
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  8. WIBeerSnob

    WIBeerSnob Initiate (0) Jan 31, 2017 Wisconsin
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    Would a FO be comparable to a Black Gold? Trying to get an unbiased opinion. So if you're from California and you say "hell no!!!", don't bother. :grin:
     
  9. blkhawk14

    blkhawk14 Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2014 Minnesota
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    FOb4? At the rate it's going now I'd say it's closer to 2 FO: 1 BG or 3:2
     
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  10. WIBeerSnob

    WIBeerSnob Initiate (0) Jan 31, 2017 Wisconsin
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    Interesting. Good to know.
     
  11. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    I'd say that these values may change, so be cautious. I don't think you'll get anyone to bite at 3FO. However, at 2 you will if someone wants it for sure. Buuuut, it seems like BG has been going for the same this value for the past year - so once the new batch gets released (not for a couple weeks, right?), I'd expect BG value to drop at least a little unless this year is just somehow spectacularly better than past years. So, I'd say you maybe could get 2 FO now, but depending on the dip in value after release, you may or may not.

    Personally, I don't see 3 FO going for BG at all. That's valuing FO at essentially retail, which seems low to me - even taking into account the recent dips in value. This is just from trade values I've seen. I'm not in tune with other valuations, so value this information how you wish.
     
  12. WIBeerSnob

    WIBeerSnob Initiate (0) Jan 31, 2017 Wisconsin
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    Value wise is FOb4 > Roll for Initiative '18? If so, then I imagine 1 BG for those two bottles might be equal value, right?
     
  13. WIBeerSnob

    WIBeerSnob Initiate (0) Jan 31, 2017 Wisconsin
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    BG event is this Saturday.
     
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  14. WIBeerSnob

    WIBeerSnob Initiate (0) Jan 31, 2017 Wisconsin
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    I'll probably just be looking for just one FO. If the value of a BG is higher maybe I can squeeze a Roll for Initiative in there as well? 2:1 BG?
     
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  15. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    As I understand it, and as @putonyourwalkingshoes aluded to previously in this thread (or perhaps it was another...think it was this one) RFI is presently approaching the value of what FOb3 was before B4 came out. So, I suspect you'd be looking at closer to 1:1 with RFI and BG. However, you could probably find someone that would do BG + for RFI+FOb4. Personally, if you want to try both, I'd look for that. The only issue you'd probably have with that is finding someone with RFI. I'm sure plenty still do, but that's obviously the harder of the two to track down.
     
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  16. WIBeerSnob

    WIBeerSnob Initiate (0) Jan 31, 2017 Wisconsin
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    Thanks, good to know. I know little of a Bottle Logic other than what I read here. Getting a haul of BG in a few days, I would like to land some FO and maybe some RFI if I can. I just to try something new that's suppose to be really good.
     
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  17. Bum4ever

    Bum4ever Pooh-Bah (1,838) Jan 18, 2017 California
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    RFI definitely trades higher than FOb4. Basically if you had an FOb4 and wanted an RFI you would get crickets. However, if you offered an RFI for the FOb4 it would close in minutes. This is because limits were one less for RFI and it sold out very quickly.

    You could easily get FO with a BG. Probably get them to add a plus too. I don’t think you could pull 2 FO, but maybe.

    I think RFI would be 1:1 for BG, but RFI isn’t moving so much anymore and so I’m not sure.

    Good luck though!
     
  18. TylerJ

    TylerJ Savant (1,003) Apr 10, 2016 Iowa
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    Another hypothetical, so I most likely won't attempt this. What combo of these Bottle Logic things (if any) could mayyybe land a KBBS 16?

    Fundamental Forces
    Fundamental Summation
    FO 17
    FO 18
    Resplendent Angel
    Ground State 18
    Reaction State
    Mxyzptlk
    Roll for Initiative
    DSN
    REN
    Staff of Asir
     
  19. UnholyDemon8

    UnholyDemon8 Devotee (373) Feb 28, 2017 Missouri
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    all of them could maybe do it. FF + fs is a good start, but usually traders would want bigger bottles since most of those can be gotten much easier. Right set of eyes I guess
     
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  20. needMIbeer

    needMIbeer Pooh-Bah (2,178) Feb 5, 2014 Virginia
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    Only recently began trading for bourbon and looking for some guidance. I’m curious to get opinions on the ability of Prairie Member bottles (releases and sinner barrels) to pull a bottle from the BTAC line or perhaps OFBB.

    Would quantity (12+ bottles) be able to pull any of these bourbons?
     
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