What happens to 'old' beer?

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  1. ManBearPat

    ManBearPat Pooh-Bah (1,813) Dec 2, 2014 Colorado
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    I realize lots of beer gets returned to the distributor, but then what?

    Particularly something like Narwhal or Expedition Stout that improves with age... I see it on shelves one week, next week its gone (having never gone on sale to my knowledge)



    IDGAF about what happens to IPAs because we all know they are absolute trash after like a week and a half wink emoji...


    I wanna be that guy that ends up with these leftovers.
     
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  2. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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  3. Milktoast75

    Milktoast75 Initiate (0) Oct 27, 2012 Wisconsin

    Not to stray from the OP but: What happens to old B/A members when they expire?
    Despite the what the song states, I believe there IS beer in heaven. Or it wouldn't be heaven!
     
  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Old beers are not returned to Wholesale Distributors by my local beer retailers but instead they just ‘clog’ the shelves and thereby keep fresh product from being there.

    @Alefflicted works in the beer retail industry as I understand it. Maybe he can provide additional insight here.

    Cheers!
     
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  5. mudbug

    mudbug Pooh-Bah (1,762) Mar 27, 2009 Oregon
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    They are shipped to the Oregon Coast
     
  6. AWA

    AWA Savant (1,195) Jul 22, 2014 California

    Many years ago when I ran a store that sold beer, my distributor took back expired beer, destroyed it, and wrote it off. Granted, I was a big account, but it seems reasonable. On a side note, I always keep some old IPAs around. They're great to give to visitors who don't know when to leave.
     
  7. AZBeerDude72

    AZBeerDude72 Initiate (0) Jun 10, 2016 Arizona

    LOL
     
  8. AZBeerDude72

    AZBeerDude72 Initiate (0) Jun 10, 2016 Arizona

    OP they usually remove any date codes and toss back into the mix 6 area...
     
  9. dcotom

    dcotom Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,637) Aug 4, 2014 Iowa
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    Or they don't remove the date codes before tossing them into the mix 6 area...
     
  10. dcotom

    dcotom Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,637) Aug 4, 2014 Iowa
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    Or they're shipped to Iowa...
     
  11. stephens101

    stephens101 Pooh-Bah (2,778) May 5, 2006 Oklahoma
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    Some places mark them down. As if 3-4 bucks off a 2 y/o bomber/4 pk of DIPA is a good deal (just one example I've seen). Tricky tho', and probably works wonders on the uninitiated.
     
  12. BrewMaven

    BrewMaven Savant (1,017) Apr 5, 2005 New York

    Old beers end up at my local Fine Fare supermarket where they are overpriced and I guess people buy them...Not me.
     
  13. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    If they're aware of the problem, a lot breweries will take back old product. I assume the retailor or distributor gets some sort of credit when that happens.

    Just like selling infected beer, a brewery has a vested interest in making sure customers aren't buying old product. No brewery wants a customer to associate their brand with a 2 year old bottle of IPA or DIPA.

    That being said, I seem to recall Slyfox in Pa. selling some of their beer at a discount, as the beer was past the "best by" date on the label. They assured everyone that the beer really was still good, but that as it wasn't in top, optimal condition, they felt it necessary to sell it at a discount (rather than just dumping it one presumes).

    @JackHorzempa. Do you remember that Jack? It was some years ago, but I seem to recall there was a fairly lengthy thread in the Mid Atlantic forum discussing the pros and cons of the brewery's actions (I think it was Slyfox brewing that was involved, but it's been some years now, so I could be mistaken).
     
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  14. MetroWineAndSpirits

    MetroWineAndSpirits Initiate (0) Mar 3, 2018 District of Columbia

    They get put on clearance.
     
  15. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    John, I have zero recollection of what you are mentioning here. I can state that I personally never have an issue with 'old' Sly Fox beer at my local beer retailers. In contrast there is plenty (too much) 'old' Sierra Nevada beers at my local beer retailers. I have tagged both Bill and Terence about this in numerous BA posts but the status quo exists in this regard.

    Cheers!

    @SierraTerence
     
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  16. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    After it's written off, "disposed of" sometimes means "called my buddy to get his ass over here with his truck"...
     
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  17. Giantspace

    Giantspace Grand Pooh-Bah (3,043) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    I think it was the SlyFox 113 IPA that was bottled in bombers. I think all the bombers were being sold for $1-2 each and were out of date. I think you had to buy a case at a time.

    Enjoy
     
  18. WhiteHart

    WhiteHart Aspirant (257) Apr 16, 2018 North Carolina

    There is no 'writing off'.

    The hard truth is, in some areas at least those breweries that you are wanting to support bear the entire brunt of this. The distributor gets a credit, yes. Pretty much 100%, they are off the hook. The brewery then pays to have it shipped back to them, and then either pays to have it crushed and destroyed by a larger brewery or other facility that has the capability to do this (dumping beer on a large scale is an incredibly costly and time-consuming endeavor, and crushing requires special equipment) or they pay yet again to have it shipped somewhere else to be destroyed by a facility that will turn it into a product such as usable ethanol fuel. Either way it is all accounted for by barrelage and destroyed under watchful eyes because of legal accountability and the taxes that may be avoided.

    Next time you turn your nose up (not you particularly John_M, all of us) at a beer that is maybe a couple weeks past your personal freshness threshold, keep in mind that you may have just cost that brewery 3x the cost that they had anticipated in making the product. The repercussions of the fickle demands of todays drinkers can have devastating effects on the small breweries they claim to love.
     
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  19. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Thanks. That's exactly my recollection. Just been a lot if years, and my memory isn't what it once was.
     
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