Aging BCBS variants

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by M777, Nov 25, 2018.

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  1. M777

    M777 Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2015 Illinois

    The longest I’ve let flavored variants sit would be around 8 months. How long can they sit on the shelf without loosing flavors? I’m not trying to age for flavor improvement, just have quite a bit of stuff in the cellar and think it will be a while until get to them and would rather save them for future enjoyment. Many thanks in advance.
     
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  2. donspublic

    donspublic Grand Pooh-Bah (3,552) Aug 4, 2014 Texas
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    i had a 2015, 2016 and 2017 last christmas and the 2016 was prefered by pretty much all. All were solid, it was just a tad bit more mellow.
     
  3. M777

    M777 Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2015 Illinois

    Thanks, which variants were they?
     
  4. donspublic

    donspublic Grand Pooh-Bah (3,552) Aug 4, 2014 Texas
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    Straight up stout. I didn't start getting the variants until last year. I just found some coffee from like 2014 that I didn't know I had, it is probably void of any coffee, but will find out this month
     
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  5. Sweatshirt

    Sweatshirt Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2014 New Hampshire

    If you aren't aging for flavor changes keep them as cold as you can.
     
  6. M777

    M777 Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2015 Illinois

    It's my understanding that since 2016 BCBS has been pasteurized and won't change much when cellared (I mostly age the regular to offset the hotness of the younger BCBS).
     
  7. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    This is bullshit. Oxidation will continue to happen regardless of the presence of live yeast. If anything there would be more DO since there are no yeast to scavenge said oxygen.
     
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  8. LarryV

    LarryV Grand Pooh-Bah (5,408) Jun 13, 2001 Massachusetts
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    I just had a bottle of 2015 BCBS that I had given a friend originally and she aged it in her basement and brought it over on my birthday. She took the first sip and said, "I don't think I like this beer.". I tried it and it was terrible, very sour tasting. It ended up being a drain pour. I seem to recall that they had some problems with infected batches back then. Anyways, it was a real disappointment.
     
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  9. Sweatshirt

    Sweatshirt Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2014 New Hampshire

    The flavorings will absolutely fade. Pasteurization will inhibit some beer aging reactions it won't halt all.
     
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  10. Highbrow

    Highbrow Pooh-Bah (1,770) Jan 7, 2011 California
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    my humble opinion. the question is probably too generalized to answer concisely. my experience just with regular BCBS, each individual bottling date (with-in a particular release year) has differed. i've had my fair share of variants, mostly since 2013. again humble opinion, i don't feel like there would be a solid opinion that all the variants, (year in & year out), age this way or that. 1 might benefit a bit from age while the other doesn't. i do feel that the flavors change subtly. being honest though, the subtle changes have been just that to me, subtle. maybe subtly better (more to my liking) maybe subtly less to my liking. truth be told, the risk of something less favorable occurring seems quite a bit higher than the hope something magical occurs over time from sitting on them. jmho
     
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  11. Donco

    Donco Pooh-Bah (1,639) Aug 12, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    This year's coffee barleywine bottle says "one year". The wheatwine says "five years"
     
  12. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Since they don't condition in the bottle, I doubt you'll get any improvement if that's what your looking for. With coffee and other variants I do think the flavors mellow a bit, whether that's good or bad depends on the person. I still subscribe to keep my beers cold and dark and I drink them when I really want one, but beers do oxidize as well too no matter what you do to them. I used to think pre pasteurization that 3-4 years was really a sweet spot, with these newer 500 ml bottles i can't really get enough to worry about that. It's a bottle here one there, so I just drink them when I want one.
     
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  13. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
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    That bottle was infected, 2015 was the year of infection.
     
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  14. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Aging BA beers with add-junks such as coffee, fruit, bourbon, vanilla, chocolate, etc will result in some of the add-junks falling off in flavor within a year, which will effectively unmask other flavors - sometimes favorably though that's subjective. Coffee seems to fall off quickest and most noticeably, revealing the other flavors. Barring infection or coffee yielding green pepper taste, your variants will still make for good drinking for a year or two, and may improve depending on your tastes.
     
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  15. Thirstygoat

    Thirstygoat Initiate (0) Nov 22, 2012 Illinois
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    I still have 2012 Coffee and an original Bramble Rye in the cellar. What am I waiting for? Hell if I know.
     
  16. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I believe I’d drink them , oxidized bc tastes like cardboard it would be a shame to lose them.
     
  17. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    I'm curious how old you've had an "oxidized BC" where it tasted like cardboard. People still drink them back to 2009 with very few issues, but based on your posts I'm guessing that the bottle you had is not older than 2012. In which case It is more likely that you had a bad bottle or an off-palate day rather than the beer actually being that oxidized.
     
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  18. AdmiralOzone

    AdmiralOzone Grand Pooh-Bah (4,352) Jun 26, 2014 Minnesota
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    Got quite a few variants this year. Five of us shared one each: regular, vanilla, and orange. All tasted great and I'm only aging any because I'm not gonna drink them all back to back. The Wheatwine I opened yesterday needs some time IMO, as it's a bit "hot" from the barrel.
     
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  19. Lahey

    Lahey Initiate (0) Nov 12, 2016 Michigan

    If you have multiple bottles of each variant, drink one of each over the next couple weeks to get an idea of how strong the flavorings are. If one flavor is overpowering or a hot beer, drink them last to let that flavor/heat fade a little. Nice thing is these stouts have an outstanding base, so somewhat faded additives shouldn't hurt much.
     
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  20. AZBeerDude72

    AZBeerDude72 Initiate (0) Jun 10, 2016 Arizona

    I would age them if you want, see how it matures etc. Usually the bottle indicates what can age or for how long etc. I have some regular sitting for 2 years but that is not a variant. My choice is to consume them fresh unless I have numerous of the same then I drink when I get the urge, if some flavor falls off not a big deal, still tasty.
    Cheers
     
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