Trader won't leave feedback

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by ScottDrinksCraft, Nov 27, 2018.

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  1. ScottDrinksCraft

    ScottDrinksCraft Zealot (544) Sep 29, 2010 Massachusetts
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    So I have a situation where someone I traded with once (almost 5 months ago now) is refusing to leave feedback. I've PMed him about 6-7 different times asking him leave feedback and actually replied to his latest trade post that he put up a day or two ago. He has not responded to any of my attempts to reach out to him whether it was privately or publicly.

    As of this moment, he was looking at trade posts 45 seconds ago.

    I honestly have no idea why he's doing this. When he got my package, his immediate reaction was to criticize my packaging for whatever reason. I had a BAA 18 very securely packed in a blow-up bottle sleeve along with a couple very nice extras (Trillium and Hudson Valley if I remember right). I've done over 200 trades between here, IG, Facebook, and other platforms and never had a single thing break.

    All in all, it's really not a big deal...but I just want the trade out of my "open trades" section because it's annoying the hell out of me haha (a little OCD, maybe). Since I already left (positive) feedback for him, there doesn't seem to be anyway to revoke that feedback or a way to simply remove the trade altogether.

    If there's a different forum that this should be posted in, let me know! I definitely don't think this warrants being posted in Bad Beer Traders because we actually completed the trade successfully (which makes his actions that much more bizarre).

    Any input/tips/tricks on how to resolve this would be appreciated. Cheers!
     
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  2. eppie82

    eppie82 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,377) Apr 19, 2015 Illinois
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    When I had a similar situation some time ago, one of the mods offered to 'prod' the other trader to leave feedback. Issue was resolved the same day. So I'd say, inquire with one of the mods and I'm sure they'd be happy to help.
     
  3. ScottDrinksCraft

    ScottDrinksCraft Zealot (544) Sep 29, 2010 Massachusetts
    Trader

    Thanks for that! I'm still relatively new to the BA community outside of trading - what's the best way to go about reaching out to the mods and how do I find out who they are (I assume I wouldn't be reaching out to Todd...)?
     
  4. eppie82

    eppie82 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,377) Apr 19, 2015 Illinois
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    I would start with @John_M . He will redirect you to another moderator if necessary.
     
  5. ScottDrinksCraft

    ScottDrinksCraft Zealot (544) Sep 29, 2010 Massachusetts
    Trader

    Will do. Thanks a ton, man...very much appreciated!
     
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  6. traction

    traction Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2010 Georgia
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    I believe all "open" trades will purge from the system after 6 months if one or both of the users doesn't leave feedback. So if it has already been nearly 5 months it should be dropping off soon. With that being said the guy you traded with should just do the right thing and take the minute it takes and leave feedback.
     
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  7. LeedsZimbabwe

    LeedsZimbabwe Zealot (552) Nov 23, 2014 New York
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    Such an odd thing to do. Has he ever responded to you since the trade? i.e., even to say that the box arrived safely or whatever? Never had anyone completely fall off the map on any platform.
     
  8. ScottDrinksCraft

    ScottDrinksCraft Zealot (544) Sep 29, 2010 Massachusetts
    Trader

    I agree - extremely odd. He responded when he got my package and criticized my packaging (my packaging was totally fine) and didnt thank me for the really nice extras I sent him or the trade in general, either. After that I never heard from him again despite 6-7 PMs asking for feedback.

    He actually just posted another trade offer (second one this week I believe) and I commented on it again. At this point it's obvious to me the guy is just a dick and is doing this on purpose for some very odd reason.
     
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  9. MattOC

    MattOC Pooh-Bah (2,100) Jan 13, 2013 Massachusetts
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    I wonder if the packaging thing annoyed him enough, seems like it did, and he wants to leave less than good feedback for some silly reason. Illogical, since it sounds like you don’t deserve it, but maybe by not leaving any and waiting it out, he’s just hoping the trade gets purged by time.

    Odd regardless. Good luck.

    Also, no idea why someone would do that unless neutral or bad feedback was left by their trade partner and by waiting it out and not reciprocating they make the trade go away and it doesn’t damage their trade reputation.
     
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  10. traction

    traction Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2010 Georgia
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    Good ole fashioned passive aggression is my best guess. I know it was suggested and I'm not sure if you ever tried but contacting @John_M with the traders name might help move the situation along a bit.
     
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  11. ScottDrinksCraft

    ScottDrinksCraft Zealot (544) Sep 29, 2010 Massachusetts
    Trader

    I did reach out to John and he told me that mods get alerted after 6 months and that one of them will prod him to leave feedback at that time, I believe (or the open trade will just disappear). So only ~1 month to go before I get this trade out of my "open trades" list! haha
     
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  12. Thirst_trappist

    Thirst_trappist Maven (1,420) Jan 18, 2016 Florida
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    This ever get resolved?
     
  13. ScottDrinksCraft

    ScottDrinksCraft Zealot (544) Sep 29, 2010 Massachusetts
    Trader

    Not yet! Looks like the 16th is the 6-month mark for our trade. As I understand it, mods will be alerted at that point and they will prod the user to leave feedback. Fingers crossed..
     
  14. ScottDrinksCraft

    ScottDrinksCraft Zealot (544) Sep 29, 2010 Massachusetts
    Trader

    An update: guy posted another trade offer today. I commented something like "just know he won't leave feedback on your trade if you complete it". Guy responds to another comment from someone else and completely ignores mine. Sometimes I hate the beer community. This guy is a passive aggressive douchebag.
     
  15. Jholcomb

    Jholcomb Crusader (484) Jan 5, 2014 Illinois
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    His packaging was the worst I have ever seen. Surprised it made it safely. When mentioned he should package better he became very rude and aggressive. Has been harassing me ever since. I have never had a problem with anybody in the beer community in any way. Ask anyone about me other than this guy and I assure you they won’t have a single negative thing to say about me. The smear campaign this gentleman is on shows how classy he really is. All over feedback??? I was avoiding leaving feedback because of the aggressiveness and harassment.I have had people not leave feedback and never thought any about it or considered harassment or trying to smear or discourage other traders from trading with them. It’s just not that big of deal.
     
  16. ScottDrinksCraft

    ScottDrinksCraft Zealot (544) Sep 29, 2010 Massachusetts
    Trader

    Lol dude, we completed the trade successfully and my BAA was in a blow-up sleeve. My packaging was completely fine. I've sent over 200 packages with no issues. You not leaving feedback is simply unacceptable.

    Did you get your beer? Yes. And you simply ignored my 6-7 messages. I think this is more a case of you thinking you're better than other people. After you got my package, your message was only about the packaging. No thank you for the extras or the beer. You don't agree with my packaging? Fine. I wouldn't hesitate to send it again. We've all gotten packages where we think the packaging is sketchy. "Worst I've ever seen" is truly hilarious though. I buy those sleeves on Amazon specifically for big bottles and they've never let me down.

    Is ignoring people who politely ask you something how you deal with things? Just leave the fucking feedback so I never have to deal with you again. It's honestly that simple.
     
  17. Jholcomb

    Jholcomb Crusader (484) Jan 5, 2014 Illinois
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    Exactly what I am talking about. Very aggressive,rude, & offensive. These type of communications have been what I have been dealing with since trade 6 months ago.
     
  18. Jaycase

    Jaycase Grand Pooh-Bah (3,858) Jan 13, 2007 Illinois
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    Any issues you had with his packaging aside, the beer did reach you safely and as agreed upon it seems. I don't think many would argue that this is anything other than a successful trade. It also seems neither of you are on the best of terms now and are not likely to trade with each other again. That's fine. But out of respect to the trade feedback system, you owe it to the trader as well as the BA trading community to leave feedback imo. And objective feedback as to the trade itself I'd argue. Leave any petty differences aside at least for the purpose of the feedback. Further if you go ahead and leave the (objective) feedback, I'm sure you'll never have to communicate with each other again. It's a relatively simple solution to end the back & forth and then both parties can move on.
     
  19. ScottDrinksCraft

    ScottDrinksCraft Zealot (544) Sep 29, 2010 Massachusetts
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    This. 100% this.

    All I wanted was the feedback and he never would have heard from me again. I don't think any of us have the right to act as "gatekeepers" for the beer community or the trading system.
     
  20. ScottDrinksCraft

    ScottDrinksCraft Zealot (544) Sep 29, 2010 Massachusetts
    Trader

    This dude just left me neutral feedback complaining about packaging, etc. This is unbelievable. Bad beer trader forum here we come...

    Before I post there...@John_M a little help here?

    We completed a trade successfully and no issues with any of the beer getting there. What am I missing here? You can check his feedback...I left him positive feedback and was complimentary despite our differences.

    All I wanted was the feedback. This is insane to me.

    This is high school-level pettiness.
     
    #20 ScottDrinksCraft, Dec 8, 2018
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