Trader won't leave feedback

As soon as I said you should try and be a bit more thorough with packing as a precaution you immediately took it as destructive criticism instead of constructive. As well as got puffy chested and aggressive. I was blown away by your response. I have never received hostility like that from any beer person, at a release, in a line, at a brewery,or on a website. I really wanted the whole thing to go away cause I didn’t want to leave neutral feedback. I don’t like aggressive & hostile conversations especially through type. Again, just wanted this whole thing to go away. You backed me in a corner for feedback, so I gave it honestly. You have been very offensive with name calling in this thread which is not necessary. I am sorry you are angered by this whole thing.

 

You seem to be really hung up on me not thanking you for the extras. I as well sent extras but never expect or need thanks for such things Thank you for the extras I hope this ends your anger.

 

It's completely ridiculous to leave anything less than positive feedback if the only complaint is about packaging when it *didn't even result in any damage to the contents*. I've received boxes before where the bottles were essentially just draped with a single layer of bubble wrap, with minimal other padding in the box, but everything nonetheless arrived safely. I'm always mystified by traders who would pack like this...I'd never be this careless and risk having to re-send a bottle because it broke due to poor packaging. But if nothing is broken/damaged and there are no other concerns (communication was good; box includes everything agreed upon), then, in my view, this is a clear case for positive feedback. How can you leave neutral feedback by effectively saying that the packaging hypothetically might have led to damage (but in actuality didn't)?

Based on what's been said in this thread, @sthorn's packaging was far, far better than what I'm describing here. But even if it was as bad as what I'm describing, positive feedback would be warranted if everything arrived safely (which it did).

 

I don’t understand this thread at all.

All the agreed upon beers (and nice extras) made it safely and on time. FEEDBACK WOULD HAVE TO BE POSITIVE BY DEFAULT.

The offended partner should have left positive feedback and could have mentioned the that the packaging could have been better in the comments.

I understand being hassled as no one likes it BUT, BUT ,BUT- if you had left the proper feedback once you received the beers than no one would have been hassling you over not doing what your supposed to do after a trade.

Just my honest opinion.

 

I've had a handful of people leave no feedback for me, but I don't think it's neccessary to start a thread over it. While it's not ideal, I hardly think it's something to get upset over. I simply won't trade with that individual again.

 

I agree, it’s just feedback. Not a big deal and seems like the transaction went fine. I was actually surprised at the lengths the OP went to trying to get him to respond. Seemed a bit overboard just to close out feedback.

A very odd ordeal. The neutral feedback question comes back to my mind too. Doesn’t seem like either had a “positive” experience.

 

I’d respectfully disagree. Anyone without the time or attention span to leave feedback is someone I wouldn’t want to trade with.

 

You wholeheartedly deserve good feedback in your situation. I've been in your situation and not got it because I left extras but also I've been on the other end of it where extras were agreed upon and the other party decided to be cheap about it and I've sent $20-30 worth of extras and they sent nothing. This has happened in an IP trade which made things pretty awkward. Realistically I think neutral feedback should be a fair thing to do in that situation but idk wondering your thoughts.

 

That's why I wouldn't repeat trade with someone that can't be bothered to leave feedback. I just don't see the reason to dwell on it for five months. I can see the OP being upset if he had less than ten completed trades as that feedback is important, but not the case here.

Feedback should always be left, no matter the rating.

 

I have had a few people not leave feedback on me, it’s no big deal. I would have just let this one go. Ideally trader would have left feedback, but he didn’t and you badgered him into to doing it. Look where it left you, with feedback you don’t want and a thread for everyone to see that shines less than positive light on the both of you.

 

You bring up many good points .. But it is really difficult to reply to a dm?

 

I've never understood people who bitch about things like packaging and extras. If the beer arrives safe and sound then it's a good trade. Sure, I've had trades where the packaging annoyed me, but the beer I wanted arrived safely so in the end I'm happy and leave feedback. If something breaks then that's when you should complain about packaging issues. Same with extras because in the end, it's just that, an extra. Sure, it's like an unwritten rule here, but if someone doesn't hook you up with cool extras, or any extras at all, then oh well. In the end if it's a successful beer trade then you should both be happy and leave feedback and possibly do future trades down the line.

 

My thoughts, for what it matters:

- The recipient’s OPINION of the senders packaging should not play into feedback. It made it safely so the packaging is now irrelevant. That’s like someone not liking the carrier that the sender decided to ship through or something like that. If I trained carrier pigeons to fulfill my beer trades with no packaging at all that should be totally acceptable, given everything arrives safely.

- The lengths that the OP went to with the goal of ensuring he got feedback seem a little over the top. Contact a mod or something if you’re that worried about it, don’t harass someone on all of thier other posts.

- I don’t see the neutral feedback as retaliatory (though I don’t agree with it per my first point). Though I will note that the OP has mentioned multiple times how he is trying to change the feedback he left since he saw the neutral that he got. I don’t think you can change yours at this point, but if you could that would certainly be retaliatory feedback.

 

Looks like OP got what he asked for, I hope something was learned here.