Check the label

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Troutbeerbum, Jan 14, 2019.

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  1. Troutbeerbum

    Troutbeerbum Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2016 Maine

    Picked up a four pack of an IPA I've had before, but not for some time. My initial reaction was that it was way sweeter than I remembered. As I continued to drink it, I was barely able to finish it, the sweetness was so overpowering and off putting. I took a close look at the can and noticed an asterisk and small print on the back side. "Brewed with lactose".
    I'm not lactose intolerant other than I can't tolerate it in beer other than an occasional Milk Stout. Either way, I found it really off putting and otherwise would have never bought this beer had I known the brewer began putting lactose in it. Take a closer look at what you purchase other than just checking dates...
     
  2. dcotom

    dcotom Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,637) Aug 4, 2014 Iowa
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    So what beer was it?
     
  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    So, the beer you drank previously did not include lactose? The brewery decided to make a recipe change?

    Cheers!
     
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  4. donspublic

    donspublic Grand Pooh-Bah (3,552) Aug 4, 2014 Texas
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    Perhaps a MilkShake IPA?
     
  5. Troutbeerbum

    Troutbeerbum Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2016 Maine

    Yes
     
  6. Troutbeerbum

    Troutbeerbum Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2016 Maine

    Local
     
  7. Troutbeerbum

    Troutbeerbum Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2016 Maine

    I'm assuming so. I've never had one or wanted one for exactly the reasons above.
     
  8. Troutbeerbum

    Troutbeerbum Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2016 Maine

    I should say I believe it never had lactose before. I haven't had it in a year and a half, I definitely would have noticed it in the past but I'll check.
     
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  9. drunkenmess

    drunkenmess Pooh-Bah (2,668) Mar 27, 2015 Michigan
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    I did this with a stout I wanted to try just from hearing about it by a local brewery who makes relatively good beer. Picked up a 4pk instead of a single. Only to read the ingredients when I got home. "Brewed with star anise" basically a medicinal herd/spice that has similar taste of black licorice. Not a fan of black licorice nor any other kind actually. Did manage to drink the 4pk tho :wink:
     
  10. donspublic

    donspublic Grand Pooh-Bah (3,552) Aug 4, 2014 Texas
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    https://vinepair.com/articles/milkshake-ipa-guide/ Curious on the beer though, I have never seen anyone release a different version of the same beer that totally changed the style up. As @dcotom requested, could you list the beer/brewery
     
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  11. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    The strange thing about the use of lactose by brewers is that the TTB's Ruling 2015-1 which updated the regulations for the labeling of "non-traditional" ingredients is that they decided it did NOT have to be stated on the label, unlike most of the other flavorings and processes listed, as noted in TTB's Ruling 2015-1 Attachment 1.
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    Especially odd since so many folks are lactose-intolerant (although their regulations for labeling re: allergens is pretty loose, too).
     
  12. BayAreaJoe

    BayAreaJoe Pooh-Bah (1,724) Nov 23, 2017 California
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    Alvarado Street did the same thing to one of their beers, Halftime Treat. It WAS an IPA brewed with Valencia oranges; now it's brewed with tangerines, lactose, and vanilla beans. It went from amazing to a hard pass.
     
  13. tinoynk

    tinoynk Pundit (800) Sep 25, 2010 New York
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    I still don't get why people can be so cagey about naming specific beers/breweries on this forum.
     
  14. anfield86

    anfield86 Pooh-Bah (2,606) Nov 21, 2006 New Jersey
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    This.

    Unless they know you by "Trout Beer Bum" at the brewery or they know you for your fondness of Steve Martin's brilliant performance in The Jerk, I don't get why you wouldn't name some names. At least it'd be brought to their attention and they can address the issue (assuming you wouldn't want to simply tell them face-to-face and save them from the inevitable public scrutiny and the inevitable, oh-so-trendy public apology)
     
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  15. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
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    You may want to stay clear of Other Half :slight_smile:! They must have purchased a lifetime supply of the "tose".

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/other-half-2019.600911/
     
  16. Troutbeerbum

    Troutbeerbum Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2016 Maine

    I have PM'd those who asked. Just because I don't like lactose in beer is no reason for me to publicly imply on a beer forum that a particular beer isn't any good. Just because I don't like the changes doesn't mean some other potential customer won't. It's not the breweries fault, they labeled the can, and as @jesskidden said, they aren't required to.
    My goal was to point out to BA's that they should check labels.

    This right here.

    "Hey, do you now add lactose to beer "A"?
    "Yup"
    "Okay, then just give me beer "B" and "C" because I don't like "A" anymore."
    "Okay."
     
  17. Premo88

    Premo88 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,670) Jun 6, 2010 Texas
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    I don't mind pointing a finger:
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    This beer is a Milk IPA, an awful, awful, awful lactose-added IPA. I love Blackwater Draw, respect those folks for their good work, and I will continue to buy and drink their beer, but not their Milk IPA. In fact, the only reason I didn't give this beer straight 1s on the review is because BWD deserves better than that from me for all the good beer they've served me the last few years.

    I don't know who started it and why, but the Milk IPA must stop.
     
  18. donspublic

    donspublic Grand Pooh-Bah (3,552) Aug 4, 2014 Texas
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    Saw that the other day and did a hard pass.
     
  19. drunkenmess

    drunkenmess Pooh-Bah (2,668) Mar 27, 2015 Michigan
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    Yes indeed I feel the same about a beer by Rochester Mills called Milkshake IPA. Horrible concoction of vanilla mango and lactose :nauseated_face:
    Yet gave it a fair rating because I respect the brewery although many do not. :beers:
     
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  20. Premo88

    Premo88 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,670) Jun 6, 2010 Texas
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    Good call. I, unfortunately and to the OP's point, did not read the label.

    Learned my lesson: Always read the label, even if the beer's from a brewery you trust.
     
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