Potential bad trader...seeking advice

I think I would name him.

If he's honest he should at least be willing to accept that he's been a lousy communicator and will understand what you're doing. If he's not honest you can hopefully help some of the other people he has open trades with.

 

You might want to repost here

https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/forums/bad-traders.73/

Do you know he was planning on shipping with (FedEx, UPS, USPS)? You would be able to see if the label was created if you have an account with the shipper. I have an account with FedEx and can open up the app and see if a label has been created.

You can at least see if he has taken any steps towards shipping your beers

 

Liam Neeson voice: I will find you. I will track you down. You cannot get away.

 

Did they have reasons why they didn’t ship when they said they would? Send them one more beer mail and tell him without a prompt response and a tracking number you will be naming them in this thread.

 

Too busy is not a valid excuse if you already had an agreed upon shipping date. He should be asking for your forgiveness for not shipping on Monday, not you chasing him. This guy is on the fast track to a short trading career. I hope he sends more than originally promised at this point.

 

Not to ship in cold weather is a valid concern, I’ve lost bottles, but to not communicate clearly is a major no no. Did you not trade phone numbers? Give him a call. You have 40 plus trades, he has 3 , he ships first unless you have someone you know vouch for him upfront.

 

This... Low feedback compels me to ask that person to ship first.

 

Hindsight is always 20/20 in these situations... No doubt. As a more experienced trader, I ask those with less than five completed trades on BA to ship first. I’m not sure what the standard around here is but that’s what I have done.

 

This seems pretty sketchy to me, but I guess I compare others to myself and hold a higher standard. For me, if I realized the weather was bad and decided to hold off on shipping, then my trading partner would have been the first to know. You don't hold off due to weather and just not tell the other side until they ask. Secondly, the "I got busy" excuse is way too played out. I've been trading for years and maybe only had that happen a few times on my side. When it has, I immediately tell the other side and apologize repeatedly for my mistake and delay. It's really not that hard to drop a quick communication and there's always a way to find time at some point during the week. Heck, I usually try to trade and make posts around times where I know I'll be able to get a box out in the event I needed to.

 

Not shipping on said date not a huge deal but logging on and no response? Reading your messages and no communication?

Call this bum’s ass out.

Went back and actually read the rest of the thread. I stand by what I said, his communication would have been too little too late for me. No excuse for not keeping your trading partner updated.

 

Yeah. You also have the standard to have lower ratings ship first. Everyone reading this.... If you aren't doing this.... You need to


For op...ask a mod dm them to see if that kick starts his shipping

 

I hope so as well

 

If and when you get your beer, please leave appropriate feedback reflecting your experience so others are forewarned.

 

how would you leave it?

positive (assuming he gets beer just fine) with the story of the poor communication?

 

Could be good noting bad communication and delayed shipping.

The description for Bad is "expectations were not met". In that case this if I was the OP, this trade didn't meet my expectations as I would expect beer to be shipped when we agreed to and would expect responsible communication, neither of which happened here. But I do realize "Bad" is generally reserved for egregious situations.