Ingredient Preference Help

Look, if you've shut off hop pellets (which are just cones that are shredded, mixed and compressed into a more homogenous, easy to ship, handle, test and use form (the only thing pellets are harder to handle is filtering from your finished beer)) you've turned your list from most breweries to very very few. Certain ones will do whole-hop brews as special occasions, especially wet-hop / fresh hop beers around harvest time, but very few will use exclusively whole cones in all beers.
Like others, I think you may be ignoring the forest for the tree. Using pellets doesn't mean they don't care about what they're making.
I would recommend visiting some breweries nearby. Talk to the folks there, and see if they can assuage your concerns about ingredients.
Like I said earlier, most craft breweries use only the 4 main ingredients, malted barley, hops, water, and yeast in the majority of their beers. Certain beers might get other items, like oats or lactose for stouts, fruit or other flavors for others, and weirder experimental beers.
Using your example earlier, no brewer would use Froot Loops in a beer without advertising the hell out of it - being something that one would never expect in beer they won't just sneak it in.

 

Yeah man!

 

If its an Apple Cinnamon Stout... why nit use Apple Cinnamon cheerios to desecrate your bottle?

Fruit Loops... they belong on NEIPAs

 

Why not!?!

Cheers!

 

Those aren't fruit loops, they're apple Jack's.

 

Ah, same difference!?!

 

Dang... makes sense then.

I propose we coat oatmeal stouts in oatmeal and chili stouts in chili pepper.

 

This discussion has all the hallmarks of pseudoscience, but for beer... Preconceived notions, questionable research, demands for labeling, incorrect use/understanding of industry terms and practices, dismisses/ignores technical or scientific explanations, and personal opinion trumps everything.

 

Randy, I wish that I could provide to you more than one like here. You absolutely nailed it.

Cheers to you!

 

A fan of Rheinheitsgebot act- Cool- I like it myself personally- Yeast was not yet synthesized in 1516

 

I have no idea what that means.

Brewers knew that beer was made with the skimmed foam, barm, or residue from brewing. The microscope wasn't invented yet. It wasn't until Pasteur in the 19th century that yeast's contribution was understood.

 

That is what I said- Yeast was not "invented" in 1516- or discovered whatever your preference- Also synthesized means man made

 

Look at your German import selection near you. They should follow the Reinheursgebot laws. If you are looking for a good beer that is in the US I would recommend calling some local breweries. They will talk to you about their beer and are usually willing to have complete transparency with their local consumer.

 

I'm aware of what synthesized means. Yeast is naturally occurring.

The true function was not known, but as I said it was used.

 

Would be hard to make beer without it -

 

Yeast is not synthesized. Eugenics may be at play, but yeast is not of man.

 

Yeast is heavily modified nowadays though, to the point that some people consider it 'synthetic'. Big industry genetically modifying yeasts to produce all sorts of complex molecules for uses in things like pharmaceuticals.

I remember some talk a few years back about the CRISPR-9 technology making it much easier and there were murmurs from people worried that we'd start synthesizing all kinds of brewing yeasts

 

None are in use in brewing. Yet.

 

Ya I know. Just thought I'd throw it out there. Potentially very interesting implications for brewing as the tech improves.
If there are any yeast geneticists in the house any comments on the current state of marker assisted breeding would be gladly received.

 

Genetic modification is simply doing in a lab what happens randomly in nature over a longer time scale.