Anchor Brewing Co. employees are unionizing

I completely understand what it is and it does not work and will never happen in the USA. Not sure why folks think it is great when you can open any history book and look at the end results of where it is embraced.

 

How many benefits are the people of Venezuela benefiting from exactly?

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffre...dic-countries-are-not-socialist/#71b3635b74ad

 

You keep on using that word I do not think it means what you think it means

 

socialism
noun
so·cial·ism | \ ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm \
Definition of socialism


1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

Its all pink unicorns and perfection if people like me just stop opposing it and give it a try, lol please save me the sales pitch....

 

There it is.

Now is the part where I make a reference to Norway, right?

And we see why I didn't bother listing out things that are fundamentally socialist (collective/state ownership and management of a given function) that currently exist in the United States. Right now. Today. Because you seem to be operating from the well-trafficked (but misplaced) idea that socialism = totalitarian state and that it cannot exist in any other form.

Anyhoo, back to beer. I hope the Anchor employees succeed in unionizing, even though Anchor is technically no longer a "craft brewer" according to the BA. Labor practices have long been craft beer's dirty little secret, so any push towards better conditions and compensation for workers is a good step in my book.

 

Venezuela! Norway!

Reminds me of the great "Less Filling" vs. "Tastes Great" debate!

Cheers!

 

LOL
Somehow we live in the greatest country on earth but somehow it is not. You can be and do anything your mind allows but that is not good enough.

Anyway cheers to beer and a free economy where you can become anything you want....

 

For now!?!

Cheers!

P.S. Have you already contacted the contractors to make renovations to your home to be 100% energy efficient yet? I wonder how you will be permitted to heat your homebrew kettle? The sun and a Fresnel Lens?

 

I need to ask this because I never hear anyone ask it and get an answer. Most public folks advocating for Socialism are multi-millionaires living in luxury with armed guards, private jets, etc. I am curious as to why those pushing for socialism don't demand these people give up 95% of this wealth and donate it to others? I am totally confused how someone can push for socialism but be a millionaire? Anyway, just curious how this can be. Bernie walks around cursing out the rich but he is one of the rich? LOL do you see how this looks to anyone paying attention?

 

This might have something to do with the fact that only millionaires get platforms to speak in our media. Lots of not millionaires advocating for increased social spending (which I think is what you are really talking about when you say socialism because I don't see any public figures actually advocating gov't control of the means of production) but they don't get featured on the rich folks tv channels or magazines or newspapers.

Unionization isn't socialism even by your own definition. It has nothing to do with public ownership of the means of production. It is simply the workers in a specific place banding together to arrange a better deal for themselves against the capitalist impulse to minimize their compensation so that the company can maximize profit. Unions are workers engaging in capitalism, that's all.

Kind of crazy how well the red scare tactics still work on folks. RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE!!!!!!!!

 

Anchor workers were backed by the largest socialist party in USA as per my post above. I never said anything about it not OK to unionize? I worked for a Union Shop (Stated above) for 10 years. What I took exception to was Anchors Workers willingness to allow the Socialist party to work with them to get this going, I am taken back by this. I never was against them getting into a union.

 

Can you provide me with a list who publicly said they would give up 70% of all their money?

Bernie Sanders is a millionaire, I am curious why he has not already given up all his money for the cause, I see you dodged this direct question, is Bernie too cool to have to follow the rules, lead by example no?

I am sure your aware that if you taxed all the rich in the USA at 100% it could not pay for these Free Programs, since your so in-tune with everything can you let us all know where this magic money comes from? If you take 100% of all the money the rich have you are still short on paying for this? So where is the cash coming from??? The numbers were ran, you cannot pay for these systems from the rich alone, does not add up.

 

So you're problem isn't that they are unionizing (which you have no problem with even though you imply it is somehow indicative of an embrace of socialism, which you got a big problem with) but that some of the people who helped them to unionize have other political views you don't agree with?
So boycott this business because they did a thing you are ok with but got help doing it from some people who hold separate political views that you are not ok with...am I up to speed now? Cause I'm really confused

 

This is some of the most out there stuff I've ever seen on this site. Where is the talk of taxing the rich 100% coming from? what does that even mean? And what are all the free programs that need magic money? I thought some brewery employees in san francisco were just talking about possibly trying to unionize?

must be...RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE!!!!!!!