Mispronouncing an easy brewery name

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  1. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    Belvoir Brewery is pronounced Beaver, the same as the nearby Castle and village. Amazing how many people pronounce it Bell Vwoire. But many English names confuse visitors, such as Leicester and Worcester which are pronounced Lester and Wooster, also Cholmondley which is Chumley,
     
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  2. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    No wonder I kept missing my tube stop! :grin:
     
  3. hoagzzz

    hoagzzz Zealot (682) Feb 28, 2014 Pennsylvania

    I recall asking my place if they carried “ lagunista” back in like 2011.
     
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  4. jhavs

    jhavs Grand Pooh-Bah (3,587) Apr 16, 2015 New York
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    I hear people ordering Hillstead Farms instead of Hill Farmstead fairly often at local tap rooms. I assume that they are not big craft beer enthusiasts.
     
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  5. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    I went down the stairs marked "subway" and there were no trains or even train tracks down there? (I'll omit the guy who asked me if he could borrow a "***" and it turns out the "Lorry" that other guy was telling me to get out of the way of wasn't a young woman! Well, if she was she was built like the (US) proverbial Mack Truck.)
     
  6. papposilenus

    papposilenus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,232) Jun 21, 2014 New Hampshire
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    Here in New England, we've appropriated all your place names so we're pretty good about actually saying them - although spelling them can be hit-or-miss. But whenever we have to come up with a name on our own, we do this sort of bastardized anglo-french-indian thing which is pretty much totally incomprehensible to everyone else. (I've lived next to the Ashuelot River for 15 years and pronounce it differently every time I say it). At any rate, I think it's given us a relatively high tolerance for mispronunciations and, besides, we're probably not really listening anyway.
     
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  7. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    That's just silly. It's La-GOON-atus.
     
  8. Shanex

    Shanex Grand Pooh-Bah (4,960) Dec 10, 2015 France
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    Don’t blame yourself OP for poor pronunciation. Not everybody can speak multiple languages fluently. Even then, Flemish and German or French for Wallonies part of Belgium breweries names are a bit difficult to read for a foreigner, English speaker particularly.

    Only tip I can offer: Pronounce “Chouf” (as if you just sneeze) instead of Chouffe-e.
     
  9. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    Gimme a Flat Tire and Left Hand Heffer-wize.
     
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  10. ManBearPat

    ManBearPat Pooh-Bah (1,813) Dec 2, 2014 Colorado
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    My understanding is that way back when, Odell used to be called 'Odells'... but they removed to *s* for clarity sake.
     
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  11. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    This is true. I don't believe they ever had an apostrophe after the O, but they were definitely Odell's for a little while. Hell, they might have had legal issues with O'Doul's![​IMG]
     
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  12. montman

    montman Maven (1,444) Mar 10, 2009 Virginia
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    No, I personally couldn't care less. If people mispronouncing things bothered me, I'd have a tough time, it's usually just funny.

    But how about breweries that have an intentionally difficult name to pronounce?
    We have a local place spelled "Coelacanth" that's pronounced "See-luh-kanth."
     
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  13. pat61

    pat61 Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2010 Minnesota

    If I am running a business selling a product or service I don't care what people call me or the product as long as they buy what I am selling.
     
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  14. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Have you heard an explanation why they don't use the traditional spelling of Abbey?

    Can't blame people too much - they spell it like Jack owns a woman, not a monastery/church building. The latter is more logical for a brewery.
     
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  15. Sheppard

    Sheppard Grand Pooh-Bah (3,516) Mar 16, 2013 Massachusetts
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    Abby is Jack's wife. I get why people would mistake it. I just feel like throughout the Northeast, they're fairly well known, especially in MA. I guess I expect more from people...maybe that's the issue here?
     
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  16. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    If you study human reading skills at all, you will discover that there are a large percentage of the population (I forget the percentage) who read by pattern-recognition rather than a letter at a time. (These are also usually the fast readers, and, in fact, is a skill that is part of most speed reading teachings...) (As an aside, these people are also really bad proofreaders, for obvious reasons...)

    So, face it, Longboat and Logboat look the same to these people.

    I'm with @Giantspace -- lazy misuse of the language bugs me alot :wink: more. (And I'd add to his list using adjectives instead of adverbs -ESPECIALLY in allegedly professionally written advertising copy!)
     
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  17. IPAExpert69

    IPAExpert69 Savant (1,065) Aug 2, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Well us Philadelphians typically refer to Bud Light as wooder so :sunglasses:
     
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  18. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    Now that it is a macro brewer, it is one, isn't it? :stuck_out_tongue:
     
  19. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    My sympathies are usually with the person saying/spelling it wrong rather than the brewery. Partially because I don't get mad at such things, partially because I can't cast stones for such a thing, and partially because breweries can bring this upon themselves with their name choice. Jack's Abby? That took me forever to get right on the first try. Raising kids has only reinforced this sympathy. When you have to teach someone how basic words are pronounced, you really appreciate how ridiculously messy it all is.

    Foreign brewery names are an entirely different thing of course. Here's one story. People tend to remove the words "brewery" and "brewing company" when they mention a brewer. A result of this is that Brasserie de la Senne is usually shortened to just De La Senne here. Even the Shelton Brothers website has them listed as De La Senne. When I was in Brussels, I was talking to locals and asking them how to pronounce the names of Belgian brewers. I mentioned De La Senne. They told me you shouldn't say De La Senne because the full name translates to Brewery of the Senne (river). People in the US are basically calling them "of the Senne river."
     
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  20. AlpacaAlpaca

    AlpacaAlpaca Maven (1,384) Apr 2, 2014 New York
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    "I'll have a Acadian borkfast stote from foh-unders brarwery"
     
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