Achieving that woody/earthy quality

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  1. Hoppsbabo

    Hoppsbabo Pooh-Bah (2,053) Jan 29, 2012 England
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    Me again. Having a major brew session this month and I'm full of questions. I really like a woody/earthy quality in any type of beer. Is it mostly derived from the hops, and if so, which sort? Can these flavours be achieved from certain malts or yeasts, too?
    Thanks
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Look into English and Noble hops.
     
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  3. minderbender

    minderbender Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2009 New York

    Agreed with VikeMan that the right place to start is with hops. You're in the UK so I don't see any reason to go beyond his suggestions, but for brewers in North America there are U.S.-grown hops that would work too (e.g. Willamette).

    That having been said, in the interest of thoroughness, it's worth noting that a lot of people report an earthy character resulting from the use of rye malt (typically used in the 10-20% range). Rye malt should also contribute to the body and head formation/retention of the beer. Important to note that rye malt can also contribute to a stuck mash, so you need a strategy for dealing with that.

    And of course there are various wood products that can give a beer a woody quality (oak cubes, oak spirals, etc.). But as stated above, the starting place is the hop bill, and at the outset I wouldn't venture beyond that unless it's called for by the style.
     
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  4. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    Fuggle Fuggle Fuggle.

    And I agree with rye, too. Use a ton of it, like 30-50%.
     
  5. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    Fuggles for earth
    We'd taste depends on what tease you want. Oak, maple cherry, hickory, Apple all give wood taste with extras.
     
  6. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    UK Fuggles for earthy.

    Northern Brewer for woody.
     
  7. chavinparty

    chavinparty Zealot (653) Jan 4, 2015 New Hampshire

    Try pride of ringwood. I brewed with them a few years ago and remember them being real earthy and woody in a unique way. Also be forewarned it’s about as polarizing as sorachi ace
     
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  8. Hoppsbabo

    Hoppsbabo Pooh-Bah (2,053) Jan 29, 2012 England
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    Never heard of it but I'm intrigued now. One for a smash IPA?
     
  9. Hoppsbabo

    Hoppsbabo Pooh-Bah (2,053) Jan 29, 2012 England
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    Fuggles, hey. I'm growing a load this year. Who'd have thought the answer was on my doorstep all along
     
  10. Bryan12345

    Bryan12345 Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2016 Texas

    Fuggles.

    Fuggles tastes like dirt.

    At who came up with the name Fuggles anyway? Sounds like a freakin muppet to me...
     
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  11. chavinparty

    chavinparty Zealot (653) Jan 4, 2015 New Hampshire

    That would be brave
     
  12. Hoppsbabo

    Hoppsbabo Pooh-Bah (2,053) Jan 29, 2012 England
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    Sold
     
  13. NeroFiddled

    NeroFiddled Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,276) Jul 8, 2002 Pennsylvania
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    Why Mr. Fuggle did of course.

    Historians do argue this though.
     
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  14. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    A tiny amount of peat smoked malt has done the trick for me. Like 1oz for a standard 5 gallon batch.
    Lots of rye works well. Fuggles works but depends on the batch. Some years it's more floral than others.
     
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  15. minderbender

    minderbender Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2009 New York

    I was just having a cup of tea and I realized that tea would be another way to get some earthy character into the beer. If you do a little poking around, you can find plenty of info about brewing beer with tea. Again, definitely not Plan A, but certainly it belongs in the discussion.
     
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  16. NeroFiddled

    NeroFiddled Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,276) Jul 8, 2002 Pennsylvania
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    That's actually a very good suggestion. Tea is an expensive ingredient but you'd only need a little.
     
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