Sierra Nevada Pale Ale, Can vs. Bottle

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  1. dasenebler

    dasenebler Initiate (0) Jan 26, 2008 Maine

    So I just reviewed SNPA from the can, and while good, it was not the SNPA I have come to know and love.

    I just decanted a can and a bottle to do a comparison. There's definitely a difference. It's subtle, but the bottled version has more hop flavor than the can. In addition, the can tastes and feels somewhat thin in comparison to the bottle. This is not a perfect sensory evaluation, seeing as my bottle is coded 1/16/12, and my can is 2/15/12, but it's the best I could do. Even though my bottle is a month older than my can, I actually prefer the bottled version.

    Has anyone else had SNPA out of the can? What do you think? Is it as good as the bottle?
     
  2. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    This didn't take long to start!
     
  3. Jason

    Jason Founder (0) Aug 23, 1996 Massachusetts

    I'll be picking some up soon ... prices at my local.

    Case of bottles was $34.99

    Case of cans was $25.99

    I'm guessing there is a difference in mouthfeel slightly, cans will stay fresh for longer / not get light struck either.
     
  4. gatornation

    gatornation Grand High Pooh-Bah (10,388) Apr 18, 2007 Arizona
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    the can is much smoother like a tap version less bitter pine hops on the front end
     
  5. dasenebler

    dasenebler Initiate (0) Jan 26, 2008 Maine

    I was at Whole Foods and a twelve-pack of cans was a dollar more than bottles. I wish the prices up here were like what you saw.

    The mouthfeel was different. I wonder if SN is naturally carbonating and conditioning in the cans, the same way they do with the bottles. The process has to be somewhat different for the cans, right?
     
  6. bulletrain76

    bulletrain76 Maven (1,311) Nov 6, 2007 California

    They are indeed conditioning in the can but in both cases, I think the amount of CO2 from the bottle/can conditioning is small enough to not have much impact on mouthfeel (they package at close to full carbonation). They were doing a blind taste test at an event not too long ago and I seem to remember people being unable to tell the two apart...
     
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  7. afrokaze

    afrokaze Pooh-Bah (1,962) Jun 12, 2009 Oregon
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    I've done a side by side and the difference is negligible if not non-existant. I thought canned Torpedo was actually better than the bottle, felt a bit crisper.
     
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  8. beerme411

    beerme411 Initiate (0) Sep 28, 2010 California

    I didn't notice any difference above the standard variation found in bottles of SNPA, of course I pour both into a glass. They are both conditioned in their container. There is a difference strait from the can vs bottle, but I normally don't drink that way
     
  9. nickapalooza86

    nickapalooza86 Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2010 Wisconsin

    This must be why everything Surly and Oskar Blues does is so bad;-)
     
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  10. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Try doing it in a blind tasting where you don't know which container it is poured from. Use 6 2-4 oz samples, 3 from can and 3 from bottle and see how you can do.

    Oh and be sure they are roughly the same bottling/canning date.
     
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  11. TicoCali

    TicoCali Initiate (0) Jul 25, 2010 California

    Also did the same thing and didn't notice much difference. Same with torpedo as mentioned above.
     
  12. dasenebler

    dasenebler Initiate (0) Jan 26, 2008 Maine

    Blind tasting would be ideal, though I'm pretty sure I'd come to the same conclusion as with the side-by-side. I like to think that I'm an experienced taster, and there was definitely a difference between the can and bottle when decanted. Now whether than can be attributed to the relative age of the samples is yet to be determined. Cheers
     
  13. BillManley

    BillManley Pundit (954) Jul 2, 2008 North Carolina
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    One of the problems we've had while doing blind tasting, is getting a similar pour out of both bottle and can. When pouring from a bottle, it's easy to regulate how much foam collar you get. The can, on the other hand, is tough because of the lip on the edge of the can, the beer travels over and into the glass in a much more turbid way. We found that punching a carb hole in the back side of the can makes for better pouring that is more similar to the bottle.

    The style of pour and how much CO2 in suspension really has an affect on the perceived mouthfeel of the beer. CO2 and body (residual sugars) are quantifiable figures which are the main contributors to mouthfeel. Both CO2 and body are exactly the same in bottles and cans.

    Out of thousands of blind side-by-side tests there has been no statistical deviations in flavor. We'll see during more trials over the lifetime of bottle vs cans (the older the beer, we assume, the more noticeable the difference) but we'll have to see as the beer ages.

    -B
     
  14. Fitshaced

    Fitshaced Initiate (0) Feb 29, 2012 Colorado


    You Sir, Kick ass:grinning: I love seeing your posts on here kicking knowledge about SN beers. Cheers
     
  15. leedorham

    leedorham Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2006 Washington

    The elephant in the room seems to be the influence of glass aging on the beer. Nobody wants to admit they have become accustom to the character that a few weeks of proper glass aging imparts on a beer.

    This effect might even be amplified with SN offerings as the shorter, fatter bottles would tend to impart a unique glassiness with a different surface area glass-to-beer dynamic.
     
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  16. Pahn

    Pahn Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2009 New York

    no offense, but if you really want to assert that there's some objective difference, you ought to do a blind taste test with beers packaged less than a month apart.

    insofar as this is worth talking about at all, it's only worth talking about if you do it that way...
     
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  17. StarRaptor

    StarRaptor Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2010 California

    I have never heard of "glass aging" imparting anything on a beer. I'm interested in learning more about it, do you have anything on the subject handy?
     
  18. azorie

    azorie Pooh-Bah (2,471) Mar 18, 2006 Florida
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    I enjoyed the SNPA in cans just fine, and I am loving the cheaper price. Drinking my 2nd one today as I type this.:wink:
    I needed it after trimming up my already done blooming for the spring Azalea's.:grimacing:

    Going to be a long hot summer in Florida this year.
     
  19. Rempo

    Rempo Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2010 Indiana

    When milk came in glass containers, people loved it so much that they paid to have it delivered to their doorsteps.
     
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  20. leedorham

    leedorham Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2006 Washington

    Indeed

    The colloidal properties of typical soda-lime glass as used in beverage containers leads us to believe it is an inert, non-reactive substance. However, further investigation reveals the biodynamic nature of its amorphous properties as manifested in biostatic activity amongst reagents such as Na2O and CaW10.

    Single-celled eukaryotes such as yeast have their own biostatic reactivity and this activity increases in the presence of soda-lime glass additives.

    A thorough lecture on this little-known phenomena can be viewed here.
     
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