IPA: Mainstay or Fad?

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  1. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Not that I can think of, off hand. I noted above how I've collected my reference material - like the below - but it's hit or miss and seldom exactly what you're looking for (and ya gotta save what ya find). The IRI sales figures, which come in volume (cases, not barrels) or in dollars are, at best, indications of trends and not actual exact sales, because of how they're collected (retail level) and then only from certain types of retailers.
    But they're good enough for the industry, so....
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  2. thesherrybomber

    thesherrybomber Initiate (0) Jun 13, 2017 California

    I can't remember if it was this site, but I remember someone from England saying American (and American inspired) pale ales, IPAs, etc. served in a separate category than their English counterparts (also labeled as something other than pale ale, IPA, etc. and more along the lines of "American ale", or something). Guessing they're seen as being as different as a German pilsner and American adjunct lager. You wouldn't imagine them being sold side-by-side.
     
  3. Nickwierda

    Nickwierda Initiate (0) Feb 8, 2015 New Jersey

    Soooo are we done here?
     
  4. Shane_Bellone

    Shane_Bellone Initiate (0) Nov 22, 2018 Connecticut

    It seems as if fellow members are currently a DIPAs in while posting. For a fad to end, the product does not have to stop existing. Do mullets still exist? How about wide-leg jeans? Tribal tattoos? Fads ending have more to do with their exit from pop culture than ceasing to exist.

    Yes, IPAs have been around a minute but as others have mentioned -- today's IPAs are extremely dissimilar to those.

    Speaking IPA culture though.... Notice how IPA fans do see IPAs as the only choice. They remain unable to concede that they may not be the one worthy choice until man has ceased walking the earth.

    Sure, everyone who received a tramp stamp during the '90s thought the same. But you're more rational than them, right? :slight_smile:
     
  5. MistaRyte

    MistaRyte Pooh-Bah (2,681) Jan 14, 2008 Virginia
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    I remember my first post... "Is it OK to almost exclusively drink new stuff/Pokemon - gotta collect em all!"... I low balled it.
     
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  6. LarryV

    LarryV Grand Pooh-Bah (5,408) Jun 13, 2001 Massachusetts
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    And the point is?
     
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  7. mudbug

    mudbug Pooh-Bah (1,762) Mar 27, 2009 Oregon
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    Well since a brewer only needs to show a picture of hops to the wort in order to stick the IPA marketing tool onto the label I'd say it's not a fad.
     
  8. Oktoberfiesta

    Oktoberfiesta Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2013 New Mexico

    Almost every local brewery around here has stated many times through many avenues that their core IPAs make up a good 2/3rds of their sales. But that was 2-3 years back. Many have spent millions on upgrades knowing what has been their mainstay money maker. I guess fad isn't the right word that I would be looking at. Maybe diversity? Do breweries have to be more diverse now? Yes. I think they do.

    But I'm also not looking at ipas as merely hazy limited quick sales. There are two branches of ipas. The former has had Longevity for atleast 10-16 years. The other may be fragile.
     
  9. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    So it seems we can say that the potential 'fad' of IPAs started around the year 2000. And if anything it seems to have expanded it's appeal in the intervening (nearly) 2 decades. It appears to be leading the revolution (in the sense of a cycling not an overturning) in beer globally, and most of the 'fad' styles have been different takes on the IPA foundation. If you describe an IPA as an ale brewed with a focus on some aspect of hop flavors then I think it's safe to say that the IPA has passed the fad phase and is now a global beer mainstay
     
  10. Optifron

    Optifron Initiate (0) Aug 17, 2012 Minnesota

    Agreed, second post makes much more sense. To that second post, the idea that the current large share of the total craft market that is IPAs being a fad, I (maybe just hopefully) agree. I don’t expect it to turn around tomorrow, but I’ve got to imagine that people will get bored with “variety packs” of 4 IPAs and actually want other beers and the balance will tip back. But who knows. Maybe IPA is just our generation’s AAL.
     
  11. HoppyBastard

    HoppyBastard Savant (1,149) Sep 6, 2013 Nebraska

    Hoppy Bastard is here to help in these confusing times. It turns out the IPA really is a popular style of beer and not just a fad. Just like the horseless carriage and electricity. I think we can close down this thread now. Thank you.
     
  12. patto1ro

    patto1ro Pooh-Bah (2,084) Apr 26, 2004 Netherlands
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    All styles fade and die.
     
  13. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    And some come back from the dead - e.g., Grodsizkie.

    Cheers to Zombie beer styles!!!!!!!!!
     
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  14. IPAExpert69

    IPAExpert69 Savant (1,065) Aug 2, 2017 Pennsylvania

    MY LIFE AND SCREEN NAMES ARE JUST A FAD?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
     
  15. nadohawk

    nadohawk Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2013 California

    Most definitely a mainstay. The fad IMO would be the hazy IPAs; they seem to appeal to the consumers who don't like the bitter taste of IPAs. And maybe a fad as well, but calling every style of beer you add hops to as "Insert beer style" IPA.
     
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  16. ScaryEd

    ScaryEd Grand Pooh-Bah (3,793) Feb 19, 2012 New Hampshire
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    I don't want to help turn this into a "West Coast vs. NEIPA" thread but I recently visited Pennsylvania and had Fat Head's Headhunter and Hop Juju on draft and it made me nostalgic for that style of beer, that has seemingly been thrown to the wayside.

    I love hazy IPA's. I'm a "Haze boi" as much as anyone else but a great, clean bitter IPA is something to behold. To me, nothing beats that flavor when it first hits your tongue.

    I hope NEIPA's never go away, but I also hope the "West Coast" style IPA's hang around forever too. Variety is good.
     
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  17. pro100

    pro100 Zealot (567) Oct 12, 2014 California

    Is this a thread that was made ten years ago?
     
  18. neenerzig

    neenerzig Pooh-Bah (2,885) Feb 15, 2006 Ohio
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    Putting aside the fact for a moment that as a style of beer, IPAs are hundreds of years old, the fact that IPAs have been a main stay in the American craft beer scene/culture for over 15 years now at this point I'd say show us that this is a very popular beer style that has staying power.

    Eric
     
  19. oldbean

    oldbean Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2005 Massachusetts

    It's so weird. It's like asking if hot sauce is a fad.
     
  20. IPAExpert69

    IPAExpert69 Savant (1,065) Aug 2, 2017 Pennsylvania

    This is why there are so many varieties of beer to love and enjoy, but that doesn't mean the IPA is a fad, destined to go away to the margins of relevance like the mullet :grin: Your argument is baseless on it's premise, therefore I pronounce you a troll! Congratulations!
     
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