Potential Bad Trader: @dabrees

+1 for an overhaul

The current set up is very millennial. “Oh you’re a flawless trader? Ok you can be 100. Oh you refilled some assassin empties with FBS and rewaxed them? Don’t worry worst case you’ll be a 99.”

I know there would be lots of objections. But really I think every trade should be rated on a number of criteria. Say 1-10 for communication, timeliness, extras (where applicable) and packaging. And the best of the best, the delta force of traders would be 100. Trading with them you know you’d be getting flawless communication, packing and shipping (and great extras if applicable). In the 90’s you’d be considered very strong. 80’s solid. 70’s on down you would need to approach with caution.

 

I just noticed, the trader only had 2 trades at the time. And those were from Nov & Dec 2017.

That's not a stable trader. He's still a few new trader. Honestly, you should of asked him to ship first.

On BA I have 44 trades under my belt, but I've only made 1 trade in the last 11 months. If a trader asked me to ship first, I wouldn't have a problem, provided his history is sound.

 

I think in a world of beauty & perfection, we'd have a system of 1-100 or 1-10 ratings for every trade. But in the real world, the human element would cause a system like this to be embroiled in madness in short order.

We can't even agree on what's positive & what's neutral feedback. Imagine the first time a trader who thinks he's great gets a "7" on packaging because the recipient doesn't like that they included a box of pasta to cover "sloshing". Now multiply that by 25 times per day. The amount of conflict based on subjective numbers would be enormous.

Anyways, sorry for drifting this further off-topic. Back on, after two bad trader threads, I can't believe this guy's trading career isn't finished here. It should be.

 

Like with any change I’m sure there would be initial pain. Maybe people could have the ability to dispute a rating or something (would require photographic evidence or whatnot - actually would probably promote best practices all round to keep people on their toes). After up and running though I’m sure it could be generally self-policed. If you got the rep as the anally retentive guy that gives low scores for everything, you’d quickly lose trading partners.

I dunno. Just an idea. Either way this 99/100 thing needs to go (and that’s like the best case - a lot of times people need to comb through a 100 score trader to find the little idiosyncrasies that identify a sub par trader)

 

@FBarber and @rozzom, I brought the idea up in the desired improvements/upgrades to trading thread. I think it would be great if you guys could take your ideas over there. There's some serious logistical issues with expanding the ratings system but I think that if we all put our pints together we can come up with some reasonable improvement in that direction and I think the staff is actually watching that thread

 

I kind of like the way Lyft/Uber does their rating and feedback, where you can't see your own rating/feedback but others can. Maybe fashion that model into the Beer Advocate so that the traders leaving feedback don't have to feel 'uncomfortable' if the trade experience wasn't smooth.

 

Hope the BT is OK, first and foremost.

If so, I'd have to say slapping a "BT" label on his account is warranted at the very least. OP's patience is beyond which what any human being could be expected. The only reason I can see to even let BT stick around is to make the OP whole - along with many, many hard to find extras. Not bottles of Christmas Bomb.

A 100% rating with two separate BT threads exposes the weakness of the system but also the hesitation by many to rate accurately. As @rozzom said, even Bad Traders get trophies these days or their sweet little feelings are hurt. Then, as we've seen to much amusement on these threads, they often go on the attack. I love those. What times we live in. And to think I used to send surprise killer boxes to trading buddies not because I wanted something in return, but because it made me feel good.

Sorry you're dealing with this, @Slack. It's garbage.

 

Progress/status? Should we get a mod in here now?

 

Hate to say it, but not looking good. Based on his bad prior trade, this one and the fact he hasn't been on in 4 weeks things not looking good. OP, did you get his cell #, try texting him?

 

Sorry OP. This is not how we hope most of these threads/issues are resolved.

I think it's time for the ban on @dabrees to happen.

 

I'll take one last stab at this. Not to bring other people in here, but @DanGeo or @RegionRattt you have both done a recent trade in the last month with @dabrees . Any recent contact with him? I guess I'm particularly interested in @DanGeo experience as he is clearly an experienced trader and your provided feedback form that trade, although positive, wasn't really a ringing endorsement either.