Three Floyds Expansion Plans

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  1. Ranbot

    Ranbot Pooh-Bah (2,463) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    B&B's Beverage in Doylestown had a small amount of FFF last weekend... Gumballhead and some others I can't remember.

    The shelves are really crowded though... I'm sure FFF will sell fast initially, but is it sustainable after the newness wears off? I can't tell, but they must think so. At least FFF is expanding now with full understanding of the market, unlike other regional breweries that expanded ~5 years ago to have the market shift under them. FFF knows exactly what they are getting into, so they must have a plan; and if they don't there's no excuse for failure.
     
  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I am not trying to pick on you here but...

    How does a distributing brewery plan for their beer brands no longer being 'shiny new things' after they release beers into a new distribution area?

    Cheers!
     
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  3. SpdKilz

    SpdKilz Pooh-Bah (2,239) Jan 8, 2009 Illinois
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    Haven't been to FFF in years. Have they started the expansion from when this was originally posted?
     
  4. Ranbot

    Ranbot Pooh-Bah (2,463) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Presumably a very good marketing program, but exactly what or how is above my pay grade [and it's easy to get above my pay grade, since I work for free on this subject... :wink:]

    However, among the older, regional craft breweries I feel like FFF has maintained it's popularity and craft "cred" well. People seem to keep talking about FFF, which is good in of itself, but also the talk is mostly positive from what I can tell. There is still some ambient "buzz" for FFF beers that other OG craft brewers lost. That intangible public favor can go a long way if they can maintain it. If I'm reading the signals correctly of course, I might be completely wrong... The view from my armchair is limited. :grin:
     
  5. Hoos78

    Hoos78 Maven (1,327) Mar 3, 2015 Ohio

    Hmmm? Cheaper and fresher in Ohio...
     
  6. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    I think the secret lies in sending few enough beers infrequently enough. It seems that the death knell for new distributing breweries is when their beer sits around for a few months and is suddenly a 'shelf turd'. If they can send just enough that it all sells out in a month or so before sending more that seems like it would help
     
  7. Giantspace

    Giantspace Grand Pooh-Bah (3,043) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    I paid $10.49 for Alpha King last spring. It was quite good but nothing I thought about again till today. I passed on all the others(4-5), there was no ZD.

    I loved Space Station on tap but would not buy the six pack as it was around 6 weeks and in a huge warm stack.

    I had Blackheart 7 years ago from a bomber and it was a beer I really liked as well.

    No idea on the cost here in PA but the first time they were here the beer was more than average cost. Best guess is $14-16 a six. That’s a hard pass for me.

    I’m sure they will sell a lot of Beer at first. Can it sustain? Lots of really good beer around here. Price will play a huge part.

    Enjoy
     
  8. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Quality and freshness surely helps with sustainability, if they over saturate any market it could create a problem. The key to any market is demand exceeds availability, but it has to be good to begin with, and I’m sure most would agree that 3F is good stuff.
     
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  9. hillind

    hillind Savant (1,007) Apr 24, 2010 Pennsylvania

    I saw alpha king at $14.50
     
  10. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Whoa!:astonished:

    That will be a hard pass for me. Just too many high quality beers available to me at waaay less than that price.

    Non-cheers to 15 bucks for a 6-pack of beer!!!!!!!!
     
  11. hillind

    hillind Savant (1,007) Apr 24, 2010 Pennsylvania

    Agreed, hopefully it will be cheaper elsewhere.
     
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  12. onthebusin03

    onthebusin03 Zealot (611) Jan 11, 2008 Pennsylvania

    Breski in Harrisburg has six packs of these for $15.99. Haven't been in to check on dates, but it doesn't matter, really.

    $15.99?

    No.
     
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  13. ssimpson89

    ssimpson89 Pooh-Bah (1,637) Jul 24, 2009 Illinois
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    Price will kill 3F like it did Ballast Point, especially Sculpin. They make great beer, but their pricing was based on scarcity. The more readily available it is, the less people will be willing to pay for it.

    It’s $12-13 a six in the home market here in Chicago. Pipeworks, Half Acre & Revolution make comparable beers at a better price point. I love their beers, but rarely buy them as I think they’re overpriced.
     
  14. BeardedWalrus

    BeardedWalrus Pooh-Bah (1,666) Jun 5, 2018 North Carolina
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    Call me when Behemoth gets here, otherwise I'm indifferent.
     
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  15. Vitacca

    Vitacca Pooh-Bah (2,250) Sep 15, 2010 Montana
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    Tell me more about the Amish Mafia.
     
  16. jkrich

    jkrich Pooh-Bah (1,878) Nov 1, 2001 Florida
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    I miss Three Floyds since I moved from Indiana several years ago. Probably unlikely to see them in Florida any time soon.
     
  17. Tucquan

    Tucquan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,116) Oct 11, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Other than the TV show, I’ve never seen or heard of it here.
     
  18. MilkLeg

    MilkLeg Zealot (579) Feb 8, 2016 Canada (AB)

    Start sending em north to Canada! I was stoked to see Ballast up here and 3F would be sick!
     
  19. Fenski

    Fenski Pundit (791) Apr 24, 2008 Ohio
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    Yes, I have loved FFF for years and paid the higher price point because the beers are fantastic and were relatively hard to find. Not any more, though. Too many quality beers, a lot of them local and at about 15-20% less in cost on the shelves these days.
     
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  20. Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse

    Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse Zealot (744) Jul 20, 2016 Indiana

    I thought I was seeing more Zombie Dust around since I moved back than I remembered. Shame to hear that it’s sitting around, especially on Indiana’s warm shelves. One thing you could always be sureness of: it you found Zombie Dust, it was fresh. Otherwise it would be gone.

    I fear you may be right. Sculpin was one of my favorite beers, but it was hard to pull the trigger on at the price unless we’re talking bar/restaurant pricing. Once it started showing up everywhere I stopped paying the premium. I’m willing to pay whatever they’re asking if buying that beer is a rare opportunity. The main thing FFF has going for them that BP doesn’t is that they haven’t been bought out.
     
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