Averagely Perfect American Brown Ale - Poll #32 - Boil Length

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by VikeMan, May 15, 2019.

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What should the recommended boil length be?

Poll closed May 17, 2019.

  1. 60 minutes

    15 vote(s)
    68.2%

  2. 75 minutes

    2 vote(s)
    9.1%

  3. 90 minutes

    1 vote(s)
    4.5%

  4. 105 minutes

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  5. 120 minutes

    4 vote(s)
    18.2%

  6. 135 minutes

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    -> Poll #31 <- determined that the fermentation temperature would be 67F. This poll will determine recommended boil length.

    I will be computing a weighted average (excluding any outliers) based on the voting, and then rounding to the nearest time divisible by 15 minutes.

    This poll will be open for 48 hours.

    If you have issues with or suggestions for methodologies used in this project, please send them via private message. Let's keep the threads themselves on topic to the question at hand and not about how you would have asked the question differently. Votes from anyone trolling the thread are null and void.

    The Averagely Perfect American Brown Ale Recipe so far...

    Batch Size: 5 Gallons into Fermenter
    Target ABV: 5.6%
    OG: 1.056
    FG: 1.013
    Yeast Strain: Wyeast 1469
    IBUs: 30 Tinseth (standard)
    Fermentation Temperature: 67F

    Mash at (recommended) 154F for (recommended) 60 minutes:
    - Golden Promise (78.5%)
    - Brown Malt (~60L) (6%)
    - Pale Chocolate Malt (English, ~220L) (5.5%)
    - American Crystal 60 (5%)
    - Golden Naked Oats (5%)

    Hops:
    - 60 minutes: Centennial, 10%AA, (Qty to be calculated soon)
    - 10 minutes:
    --- Willamette, 0.75 ounces, 5% AA
    --- Centennial, 0.75 ounces, 10% AA
    - Flameout/Whirlpool/Hopstand:
    --- Willamette, 0.75 ounces, 5% AA
    --- Centennial, 0.75 ounces, 10% AA
     
    #1 VikeMan, May 15, 2019
  2. Naugled

    Naugled Pooh-Bah (1,944) Sep 25, 2007 New York
    Pooh-Bah

    I would typically pick 60min, but I went with 120min for this to hopefully give it a little extra color and caramel from the long boil.
     
    #2 Naugled, May 15, 2019
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  3. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
    Pooh-Bah

    Cascade all the way!

    Wrong poll? Again?
     
    #3 pweis909, May 16, 2019
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  4. Push_the_limits

    Push_the_limits Initiate (0) Feb 8, 2018 Antarctica

    I voted 90 mins because I think a medium carmelization would be appropriate.
     
    #4 Push_the_limits, May 16, 2019
  5. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    Not sure how significant caramelization really is until boil time is extended to like 3-4 hours, then I KNOW you can taste it.
     
    #5 dmtaylor, May 17, 2019
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  6. Push_the_limits

    Push_the_limits Initiate (0) Feb 8, 2018 Antarctica

    Good to hear your perspective. I was wondering about the carmelization-time curve. If it's a curve reaching a maximum of 100% carmelization, we may be not be getting to 100% even at 135 mins.
     
    #6 Push_the_limits, May 17, 2019
  7. Naugled

    Naugled Pooh-Bah (1,944) Sep 25, 2007 New York
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    Level of caramelization depends on a number of things. I have both an aluminum and SS kettle. I can get caramelization in my aluminum kettle with a 60min boil with med/high heat, the SS kettle takes much longer. For yellow beers (pils, kolsch, wheats) I only use my SS kettle because I get too much color with the aluminum pot. I plan to use my aluminum pot for this beer with high heat to maximize the caramelization (in what looks like will be a 60min boil).
     
    #7 Naugled, May 17, 2019
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  8. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    After excluding outliers, the mean is 63.3. Rounding to the nearest time divisible by 15 is... 60 minutes.
     
    #8 VikeMan, May 17, 2019
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  9. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
    Pooh-Bah

    #9 wspscott, May 17, 2019
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  10. GeeL

    GeeL Initiate (0) Aug 27, 2008 Massachusetts

    If you want caramelization, why not take a lead from Scotch ales: boil a gallon of wort down nearly to a syrup, then add the rest of the wort.
     
    #10 GeeL, May 21, 2019
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