Styles that can *#@$ off!

A Moscow mule is not beer. Root beer is not beer. Tripels and Quadrupels can go away. Most of the flavored ones can go to hell too. Never seen milkshake beer, although I do drink your milkshake. Get it? get it?

 

The current trend here in Portland is Hazy NW IPAs. Blows my mind, feels like the PNW is where the New England Hazy craze started.

 

IPAs have become the martinis of the beer world. Once a simple, classic cocktail, the martini is now defined not by its ingredients, but by the glass it's served in. So to with the moniker "IPA" added to every damn new beer.

 

I'm good with the straight up hazy IPAs, but haven't found many "milkshake" IPAs I'm into. There is something about the lactose and the bunch of crap that typically gets thrown into those that just doesn't do it for me.

I'm tempted to say I don't care for Black IPAs, but that would not explain my love for the first few iterations of Sublimely Self-Righteous back in the day. I think what happened there was that I (and everyone else I knew) loved that beer, but subsequent Black IPAs from other breweries always tasted over-roasted and astringent by comparison. If it wasn't a fresh Sublimely, it was almost always a disappointment.

Pastry stouts are increasingly too difficult to drink for me. Even the very best of these are so boozy, sweet and syrupy.....I can't understand why anyone spends hundreds of dollars for these on the secondary market.

 

Sours, Lambics, macro lights, and beers brewed with lactose. Oh, and malt liquors.

 

Every beer trend started in the PNW, just ask anyone who lives there.

 

There are 2 types. Gluten free, made from grains not containing gluten like spelt and then there is gluten removed which is sometimes sold as gluten free.

Gluten removed is a beer made from normal ingredients in the same way as it normally would but an enzyme is added which breaks down the gluten which some people with an intolerance can still drink.

Turns out it was discovered by accident when an enzyme was developed to reduce haze in the beer.

And by the way, there were a lot of grains used to make beer in ancient history, not just wheat, barley and rye.

 

I think sours should not be counted in the same category as beer - they may be made with the same ingredients, but that’s like saying cheese and yogurt should be called the same thing. The flavor profiles between the two are just not similar enough to be counted in the same category to me.

Also, my biggest pet peeve in beer is not a specific style, but an attitude - the one-off, collector, new-beer-a-month attitude. IMO opinion this is killing beer, and beer culture. Beer is meant to be enjoyed, not exalted. And I’m tired of the ingredients in the beer being more important than the beer itself. I’m also tired of beer being more sensational than delicious. Just freaking make good beer, and stop caring how new or trendy or avante-garde it is. Jeez.

 

Pumpkin beers.

And white stouts.

I am getting fed up of one off collaboration beers too. Once made never to be seen again.

 

I don't dislike Belgian Lambics or German Goses at all, but I have yet to find an American sour that I think is remotely drinkable. Seemingly every brewery feels the need to give this style a try and they are not pulling it off. I am sure there are a few doing it right, but I'm not willing to spend money trying them all in the hopes of stumbling upon a well executed version. Hoping it's a trend that will pass in the craft beer scene soon.

 

BA IPAs never made sense to me. But if I had to write one off it would be rice lagers. Brut IPAs can be good, but I feel like they will go the way of the black ipa and fizzle off somewhat.

 

100%. Hate the whole lining up around the block for a limited release brew on Thursday at 11am. The scarcity mentality is just obnoxious. You're probably paying an exorbitant amount for these beers, and generally they seem to taste very similar to other offerings from the brewery.

I don't know if I'd go so far as to say it's "killing" beer culture, but it is pushing it towards that air of stuffiness and elitism that wine has suffered from for a long time. I guess it was sort of inevitable that the craft beer scene would eventually stratify as it grew, but it's unfortunate nonetheless (unless you're into that sort of thing).

 

I get what you mean. To me it’s killing beer culture in that beer is something to be enjoyed around a table in casual conversation with friends - it’s to be delicious but familiar; a support to the community shared. It’s also meant to be familiar because it’s historical. It should have some sort of longevity to it. When the one-off culture and elitist mentality comes in, all people talk about is the beer, and the social aspect is somewhat lost.

 

I attended a bottle share event last Saturday and unfortunately you described this event here.

Cheers!

 

Have you tried Ommegang's Pale Sour? It's truly an excellent and very drinkable beer.

 

sours(I've tried to like them, can't do it), milkshake IPA

 

Sours for sure. I just can't drink those. Bruts are nothing special. They could go away as well.
Some commentators on this are taking this question way to personally. It's just a question of which beers you don't like. Ease up. Relax.

 

"... Brett..."

 

No sir, no, it is not. For most of the time that beer has been in existence modern brewing techniques were not used, and wild yeast and bacteria (not understood until modern times) accompanied fermentation. Original IPA, for example, had brett, and was aged in a barrel, and finished fully attenuated, So if you want to say something about beers that shouldn't be considered beer you would have much better chance making the point that modern beer is not what beer is supposed to be like.

The truth is that beer never was one thing, it always had a very broad variation in ingredients, much of its history it has been open fermented, and often was wild and/or sour. Sour/wild styles far precede, and have much longer history, than the modern styles you think define beer.

 

Not a style...but coffee and IPA's do NOT go together...
And what's with all the Black IPA hate???