German Schwarzbier

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  1. Beertsipper

    Beertsipper Pooh-Bah (1,707) Nov 18, 2008 New York
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    This is a style I will always pick up when I see it. It never disappoints. Rarely. I love the roast malts, coffee notes, and how the hops blend in to balance everything out. Even a Sapporo Black tastes good. But not as good as the beers from Germany. They know how to do it justice. You guys like this style?? Any faves??
     
  2. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    I'm a bigger dunkel fan, but I love a good Schwarzbier, too. My fave is Schwarzla from Klosterbrau in Bamberg. For readily available German examples, there's nothing wrong with Kostritzer and Monchschof. I haven't had one in a while, but Sprecher's Black Bavarian used to be a regular purchase. While a little different, there's nothing wrong with 1554 and Xingu.
     
  3. Beer_Stan

    Beer_Stan Initiate (0) Mar 15, 2014 California
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    Beside's the classics, I think Uinta's Baba Back Lager is a great version of the style. It has the right amount of flavor, lightness and drinkability without seeming like a black and tan or watered down in anyway. I've tried to use Negra Modelo as a replacement when I cant get a good Shwarz ( a mistake, i know) and i find it and others tend to be too watery.
     
  4. anfield86

    anfield86 Pooh-Bah (2,606) Nov 21, 2006 New Jersey
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    Kostritzer is my favorite of the German "big breweries". They do a good enough job.

    On the US craft side of things, Tired Hands Trendler Schwarzbier was really great. My favorite more easily attainable ones are:
    • Full Sail Session Black (haven't seen in a while)
    • Magic Hat Howl (haven't seen in a while)
    • Sam Adams Black Lager
     
  5. Roadkizzle

    Roadkizzle Initiate (0) Nov 6, 2007 Texas

    Schwarzbier is a favorite style of mine. Locally I like Rahr and Sons Ugly Pug and Pegasus City's Texicaner Black Lager.

    I prefer the drier versions that are more like a pilsner with roastiness. I'm not as big of a fan of the versions that use Munich malt to get a sweeter finish.

    I drank a lot of Kostritzer in Germany. I don't think we have many imported versions here in North Texas.


    For locally brewed versions I think it's a shame that they seem to be hard to keep in production. Over the last year or so I've lost 2 good ones.

    The closest brewery to me discontinued theirs and it was a beer I drank most times I went there. I've started mixing their light lager and stout for a 5.4% ABV approximation of a Schwarzbier.
     
  6. Ranbot

    Ranbot Pooh-Bah (2,463) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    I also always grab a schwarzbier [or black lager] when I see them. The good ones have a nice roastiness but still retain a refreshingly light and clean character. I really like them.

    +1 Monchschof is great.

    I also really like Shiner Black Lager and Brooklyn Winter Lager.

    Although not classified as a schwarzbier DAB Dark hits the same targets for me (roasty, dark, light-feeling lager) and is really good in my opinion. DAB is easy on the wallet too.

    For some reason I don't like Kostritzer much. Different strokes...
     
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  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Just like @tzieser I am a fan of Tired Hands Trendler Schwarzbier - that is a high quality beer IMO.

    In the past I was a BIG fan of my local Rock Bottom's Schwarzbier of Nevermore; they won GABF medals for this beer. Unfortunately my Rock Bottom closed a couple/few years ago.

    Jack's Abby makes a tasty beer of Smoke & Dagger which is classified as a Rauchbier on BA but this beer is more Scharzbier for my palate: "Cloaked in mystery, this dark black beer skirts the line between a schwarzbier and smoked porter. The use of a small percentage of traditional Beechwood smoked malt adds complexity and balances the liberal use of chocolate malt. Notes of roasted grains, beechwood smoke,and coffee accompany a full bodied-and sweet chocolately malt character. Smoke & Dagger uses locally grown unmalted barley from MA.

    25 IBU"

    Cheers!
     
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  8. deleted_user_1007501

    deleted_user_1007501 Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2015

    Gonna add on to those mentioning Kostritzer and Monchschof. Any time is a great time for either of those two.
     
  9. thesherrybomber

    thesherrybomber Initiate (0) Jun 13, 2017 California

    I've found a lot of American brewers go heavy on the roast/smoke. Will have to try this Monschof; apparently its available here
     
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  10. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    No German Schwartzbiers in town currently but I really loved the Deschutes Bell's collaboration. That felt and tasted authentic.
     
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  11. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Sprecher Black Bavarian for U.S. brewed.

    Probably the first micro-brewed beer I ever tried -- somewhere back in the mid-80s (when it was cool to show off with a very dark beer in your mitt).
     
  12. jeebeel

    jeebeel Zealot (667) Jun 17, 2003 Texas

    Here in Houston we get the Kostrizer and Colbitzer imports, the latter being surprisingly good given how mediocre their Pils is. There's also an area brewery, Back Pew, that makes a solid version called Black Habit. We can also get a couple other 2 Texas-brewed schwarzbiers, but IMO they are not worth recommending.

    The best American schwarzbier I have had, by far, is also the highest-rated one on BA. A fantastic beer.
     
  13. dcotom

    dcotom Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,637) Aug 4, 2014 Iowa
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    Xingu. (It's well documented that I don't get out much.)
     
  14. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    I can remember when Xingu was the big thing back in the late 80s (early 90s?) -- every bar and store had to have it. Thing is -- it was actually pretty good. Haven't had it in forever, probably worth a taste for old-time sake.
     
  15. BruChef

    BruChef Maven (1,277) Nov 8, 2009 New York
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    Not brewed much any more but always loved Saranac Black Forest.
     
  16. BeerForMuscle

    BeerForMuscle Grand Pooh-Bah (3,713) Nov 26, 2006 New Jersey
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    Kulmbacher - Monschoff is my all time favorite. Plenty of others, but honorable mention in non-classic category goes to Xingu.
     
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  17. Lingenbrau

    Lingenbrau Grand Pooh-Bah (4,853) Apr 9, 2011 Oregon
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    I love me a good Schwarz. Luckily, I've got the likes of Heater Allen and Zoigl that pump out stellar local, yet classic examples annually. If you're ever in Portland (at the right time), drinks on me! Prost
     
  18. TheGent

    TheGent Grand Pooh-Bah (4,235) Jun 29, 2010 New Jersey
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    Köstritzer is available here and such an amazing price. I want to say $4.99 or $5.99 for a 4-pack of 16oz cans. Hard to pass up when in the mood for this style.

    I also had one from Catskill (not sure where in NY you are or their distro) and I thought it was very good. It was called Nightshine.

    I don’t have access to this beer and I’ve only had it once, but Alchemist Dark is an amazing beer. I would try to seek out that beer again if I could.

    Does anyone know if Von Trapp makes one? I checked the database and their website but nothing listed.
     
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  19. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I am looking forward to trying this beer!

    Cheers!
     
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  20. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Catskill Nightshine is amazing! The brewery is expanding, so I'm hoping to be able to get their cans a little closer to home soon enough. I think right now their stuff can only be had within Sullivan and Orange counties.

    But beers like that, or Moonlight Death and Taxes, remind me more of Czech black lagers than Schwartzbiers (if that kind of thing matters in this thread :wink:).
     
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