Styles You Want To Make A Comeback

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  1. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Have you tried the Breckenridge Burton Ale of King's Dish?

    https://www.breckbrew.com/beers/kings-dish

    Cheers!
     
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  2. Sound_Explorer

    Sound_Explorer Grand Pooh-Bah (3,044) Dec 29, 2013 Washington
    Pooh-Bah

    I had a hell of a time finding any Maibocks this spring. Pretty much anything with Bock in the style I want more of please. All the Bocks!
     
  3. Beer21

    Beer21 Maven (1,330) Oct 17, 2010 Florida

    Hazy IPAs
     
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  4. DavidK1126

    DavidK1126 Initiate (0) May 7, 2019 New Jersey

  5. macandrewsRIP

    macandrewsRIP Crusader (411) Oct 28, 2007 Massachusetts

    non-peat smoked scotch ales
     
  6. Lone_Freighter

    Lone_Freighter Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2017 Vermont

    You try 14th Star's version that just came out this past late Winter/early Spring? I really liked it.

    But to answer the OP, I would say Baltic Porters, Wee Heavy, Weizenbocks, Roggenbiers and Krystalweizens.
     
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  7. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    It doesn't appear that the post-Repeal Ballantine Burton Ale was very close in recipe to the original Burton ales of the UK, since it was a blend of long-aged and "regular" (i.e. only 1 year of aging) Ballantine India Pale Ale, according to an interview with longtime P. Ballantine & Sons R&D/QC executive, John Brzezinski (bottom of page). From a 2009 All About Beer article:
    Pre-Prohibition, when still under Ballantine family ownership, they did brew what was more than likely a different recipe, Ballantine's Old Burton Ale.

    Not sure how close DFH's beer is to the BBA, most references have Caligione using terms like it being a "homage" to it - obviously, they're not aging it for 10-20 years which was the Ballantine version's dominant characteristic.

    Also, post-Repeal, Phila's C. Schmidt's & Sons marketed a Burton Ale into the 1940s.
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    Given the tiny yearly barrelage of the non-commercially available BBA it's likely Schmidt's ale was the largest selling US Burton Ale in the period after Prohibition. Who knows how authentic that recipe was, even though Schmidt's advertising (never a reliable source, of course) suggested it was descent from the version brewed by the Robert Smith India Pale Ale Brewing Co. (which they'd bought in the 1890s). Ads in the 1930s said it was:
    I take it the question mark was suggesting it was high it alcohol content? They also claimed it was the area's largest selling quart bottle of beer - go figure.

    Although, Schmidt's other ale (also claimed to be based on a Smith ale), Tiger Head Cream Ale - which was sometime also described as an October Ale - does seem to have been a bigger seller (and, obviously, longer-lived).

    On the West Coast also in the 30's, Lucky Lager's Bankers Ale also claimed to be a "true old Burton type ale". Given Lucky's later reputation as a "cheap beer" that one might rise a few eyebrows but their masterbrewer of that period was Henry Henius, son of Dr. Max Henius.
     
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  8. belcherman

    belcherman Initiate (0) Mar 29, 2012 Rhode Island

    I am always on the lookout for an interesting, balanced beer. Not over-the-top in malt, hops or alcohol. Not too dry and not too sweet. No fruit, spices or funk. Medium body, good head retention.

    Sadly, micros and nanos seem to be moving away from those as it's the big beers that get the attention.
     
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  9. MKB

    MKB Initiate (0) May 21, 2013 California

    Coffee beer, Dark Stout, Aged in Bourbon Barrels, Alcohol Free Coffee beer.
     
  10. KarlHungus

    KarlHungus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,315) Feb 19, 2005 Minnesota
    Pooh-Bah

    You mean coffee. Right?
     
  11. JoKo

    JoKo Zealot (586) Jan 21, 2007 Connecticut

    I'd like to see the kölsch style bigger here, and Czech styled hoppy pilsner.
     
  12. Roadkizzle

    Roadkizzle Initiate (0) Nov 6, 2007 Texas

    I don't know. I see a lot of kölsch's.
    A local brewery just came out with a new mango kölsch. Another brewery has a very popular guava kölsch.
    Another brewery has a mango chili beer listed as a kölsch here on BA...

    But seriously Saint Arnold's Fancy Lawnmower has been one of the more traditional versions I've seen in the US and there are a number of local breweries that actually make attempts at least trying to respect the style.
     
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  13. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    If I was down your way I wouldn't look much beyond Altstadt- with a Kolsch that good you don't need so many other choices.
     
  14. Roadkizzle

    Roadkizzle Initiate (0) Nov 6, 2007 Texas

    I've wondered how many people from outside Texas have tried Altstadt.
    I've really liked their beers and have commented here how close they are to what I drank when I lived in Germany for the summer of 2008.

    Altstadt is not available near me in North Texas. But I have family in Austin so I've bought the beers on my trips down there.
    But I've been told Altstadt will soon be distributing up to North Texas so they will be a regular purchase for me soon.

    I also liked their Lager and Altbier. The Alt was like a more complex version of Diebels Alt.
     
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  15. beards4thewin

    beards4thewin Initiate (0) Jun 13, 2019 Michigan

    Founders Brewery Imperial Stout....man I wish that would make a comeback
     
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  16. Sweasty

    Sweasty Pundit (802) May 16, 2004 Texas

    Quality lagers would be nice. I get a few decent ones here in Texas, but would always like more options. Well made basics would be great too. Some days I just want a solid brown ale, or amber ale.
     
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  17. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
    Trader

    Stone is more than welcome to bring back Sublimely Self Righteous.
     
  18. PABrewReview

    PABrewReview Initiate (0) Apr 30, 2019 Pennsylvania

    Weizenbocks and browns
     
  19. DavidK1126

    DavidK1126 Initiate (0) May 7, 2019 New Jersey

    Thanks very much for this post! I was unaware of the piece on Mr. Brzezinski. From what I've read, in England, there were several varieties of Burton Ale. For example, exported Burton Ale was darker in color than that marketed domestically. With some breweries, there was overlap between Burton Ale and IPA. As often occurs, the commonly understood characteristics of Burton Ale evolved over time. I wonder if any unopened cans of Ballantine's Burton Ale survive.
     
  20. shelbs1202

    shelbs1202 Initiate (0) Jan 1, 2015 Indiana

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