Trust the Best By date

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  1. officerbill

    officerbill Pooh-Bah (2,228) Feb 9, 2019 New York
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    I normally buy the 4-pack of .5l cans of Köstritzer schwarzbier at the grocery store. They are crisp, flavorful, refreshing and have a “best by” date of 12/07/2019.

    Yesterday I was at the beer store and came across a lonely 6-pack of 330ml bottles with a “best by” of 05/16/2019, I figured “what the heck, it's only a month” and plopped down my 12 bucks.

    It was awful! A flat flavor profile, no hop background and an odd aftertaste. Not tasty, refreshing, or even palatable and I ended up dumping all six bottles. Lesson learned; when a brewery says not to drink their beer after a certain date, take their word for it.
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  2. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    But they don't say that - in most cases they, as you note, use language like "Best by/before" or "Enjoy by"... Even those wth "pull dates" have to assume that someone buying the beer on that day will not (always) consume it by midnight.

    But do you really think that 6 weeks ago it would have been all that much better? The European brands that typically have date codes exactly one year (imagine that? Sometimes even longer :astonished:) from packaging are basing it on, as MillerCoors says, "logistics" rather than taste.
     
  3. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    How about the retailer? I'd be up in his face for selling out-of-date product. (and just wait until you hear the myriad of responses to that observation!)
     
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  4. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Will any of them be in Latin?
    (Coincidentally, that was the name of a little red-headed young woman/exchange student we had in the 10th grade. I had a big crush on her, but --- you too, too shy...)
     
  5. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Even the Best Buy dates imo are overly optimistic; See Jever.
     
  6. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Pig Latin. :stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  7. pat61

    pat61 Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2010 Minnesota

    The best by dates do not account for what happens to a beer between the brewery and your refrigerator. An import might go by truck from a brewer to a shipper's warehouse (possibly a distributor in between) then sit in a container for a indeterminate amount of time. Where the container ends up in the boat and where the beer ends up in the container can have a big impact on the temperatures the beer will suffer on its voyage. Then it will sit in a container on a dock, then a shipper's warehouse, get trucked to a distributor, sit in a distributor's warehouse, then get trucked to a retailer where it sits on a shelf and waits for you to find it.
     
  8. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Doesn’t Kostritzer use a best by date that is one year out from bottling?
     
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  9. officerbill

    officerbill Pooh-Bah (2,228) Feb 9, 2019 New York
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    You're right, it probably wouldn't have been any better and I bought it knowing it was past the brewery's recommended date. It's just that, for the most part, I take a food's “best by” as a recommendation, but from now on I'm going to take a beer's “best by” as a hard cut off and think twice about a bottle approaching that date.
     
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  10. VoxRationis

    VoxRationis Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2016 New York
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    When the manufacturer takes the extra step of including a bottling/canning date and a best by date, these are often a full year apart (I currently have some Sixpoint Gose that follows that convention).

    The word for that in Latin is stercus tauri, although the connotation for the Romans was substantially different: they would have only seen it as a desirable form of fertilizer.
     
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  11. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    I drank a Serbian DIPA that has best before August 2020! That's over a 1 year window.
     
  12. officerbill

    officerbill Pooh-Bah (2,228) Feb 9, 2019 New York
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    When I checked out I mentioned that it was dated a month ago, the cashier (an asst manager) said “yeah, it's probably still good, do you still want it?”. Maybe it shouldn't have been on the shelf, but I knew what I was getting.
     
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  13. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    On imported beers it’s safest to assume that the best by date is a year from bottling.
     
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  14. officerbill

    officerbill Pooh-Bah (2,228) Feb 9, 2019 New York
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    Yes. The bottles just have a best by date, but the cans have both, one year apart.
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  15. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    "One year" ? From US breweries? Not from what I've seen. Much more common, for most styles of beers of "standard" abv that one expects to consume fresh, the brewers' "best by" date/recommended shelf life periods are usually 3-6 months. That's the case for AB, MillerCoors, Pabst (brewed by MC), Boston Beer Co., Yuengling, Sierra Nevada --- on down.

    Don't know what's going on with that Sixpoint beer you have, but I'd say that is very unusual, even for Sixpoint.
     
  16. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Not at all often for US breweries unless the beer is intended to also be sold in Europe.
     
  17. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Part of the canning run is to be shipped to Europe for sale there.
     
  18. VoxRationis

    VoxRationis Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2016 New York
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    I have no idea how to post a picture on the Forum, but I am looking at a can of Sixpoint Jammer (Brooklyn, NY). Canned on 02 April 2019, BB 01 April 2020.
     
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  19. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Are you Charlie Brown?
     
  20. officerbill

    officerbill Pooh-Bah (2,228) Feb 9, 2019 New York
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