"Best Beer Cities"

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by BBThunderbolt, Dec 19, 2019.

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  1. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    That’s exactly right, it’s a personal opinion. Hell even the beers that win at GABF rotate. What makes any beer win gold one year and never heard from again. Even trained palates have personal preference sneak onto his ratings, so imo even thats arbitrary. It’s tough to come to consensus with most anything that can’t really be quantified against all doubt. Best beer in the world? Most beautiful women in the world? There’s many depends on the person.
     
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  2. dcotom

    dcotom Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,637) Aug 4, 2014 Iowa
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    Well played, sir!
     
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  3. officerbill

    officerbill Pooh-Bah (2,228) Feb 9, 2019 New York
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    You win:clap:
     
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  4. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    You're the one doing the beating. So, go ahead, beat away. My point is clear, regardless of your seemingly endless ways of posting a strawman.
     
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  5. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    I see average prices for pints..$3.50, $4.00 listed? I only see that, and less, during happy hours.
     
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  6. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    by the person saying it. It's up to you, the listener/reader, to decide if that holds any weight with you based on the person. It means that the speaker believes the thing to be among the best in the whole world, obviously various speakers have various levels of reliability in making the comparison
     
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  7. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    Well, I have very fond memories of Kay's Hillside Tavern on the slope about halfway up overlooking the airport Circa 1973. It was in the blue ribbon dive bar best of category. You could easily see folks faces close up, flying by. watching the ground. Cool people were standing in line and friendly.
     
  8. Junior

    Junior Pooh-Bah (1,883) May 23, 2015 Michigan
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    Beer City, USA (Grand Rapids, MI) checks in at #15.
     
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  9. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Which makes the phrase meaningless. I gave Bud Lite Lime-a-rita a score of 1. But, someone else gave it a 5. It's safe to say that that person finds that beer to be World Class, no? How am I supposed to find meaning in that, when I thought the beer was putrid?
     
  10. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    This list just tells you the best cities to get drunk in without going broke and shortest distances between drinking establishments.
     
  11. Mister_Faucher

    Mister_Faucher Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Washington

    To be fair brutha, being in your same area, drinking many of the same beers... you don't often give a beer better than a 3.5 to 3.6 that has a 4+ rating. Be intellectually honest.
     
  12. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Oh, I freely admit that I find most beers to be in the middle of the scale. what we're talking about though, is the term "world class". I find it shallow and meaningless. I used the Lime-a-rita example just to show the extremes; a beer that I thought was utter trash and someone else found to be world class. How are we supposed to put a value to the phrase when there's no clear agreement on what it means?
     
  13. Mister_Faucher

    Mister_Faucher Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Washington

    Cool, that I'll agree with. FTR Limearita IS trash.
     
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  14. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    You find meaning by knowing the source. If some drunk at a dive bar calls bud light lime-a-rita 'world class' you can probably safely consider that phrase irrelevant. If your favorite brewer calls a beer 'world class' you might assign more meaning to it. I get that the modern iteration of american english is heavy on superlatives and it makes it hard to get a good idea of how much praise is actually being doled out. However, following your logic, all subjective quality grading is meaningless because each time a person grades something it is on their own personal scale and not some objective universal scale. That doesn't seem to me like the way language works in the real world
     
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  15. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Christ, I know too many people as it is, now I gotta know everybody? Life is hard on an introvert. :wink:
     
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  16. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    my advice? phrases like 'world class' can be largely ignored when uttered by strangers. But it can be a hot tip from someone you know/are aware of and respect. Don't throw out the knowlege when you're ignoring the people :wink:
     
  17. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Just ridiculous imo. World class and the worlds worst are in the eye of the beholder, nothing more. It’s so much a personal preference, arguing the semantics is like talking politics. Even when a friend recommends a beer he thinks is the shit, sometimes I disagree. Individual palates are just that. Just look at the diversity when: Whats the best IPA thread pops up. There’s like a 100 different opinions, so there’s no real right or wrong, it’s just what floats your boat. So if experienced Hop heads can’t agree on what’s best,,,, then well. There is only a best that appeals to your palate, nothing more. Lots of variables here too, region plays a role, freshness plays a roll.
     
  18. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    As the old saying goes; you know how I hate people and they're everywhere these days.
     
  19. eppie82

    eppie82 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,377) Apr 19, 2015 Illinois
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    This thread is world class.
     
  20. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Naw, mostly North American class.
     
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