Adjunct Misinformation

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  1. DISKORD

    DISKORD Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2017 South Carolina

    They already use that term on the labels. Artificial Flavor(s) and Natural Flavor(s).
     
  2. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    Maybe this will have to be the new convention, malt adjuncts and flavor adjuncts and hop adjuncts (once those modified yeast start cranking out those new hop flavors )
     
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  3. jkrich

    jkrich Pooh-Bah (1,878) Nov 1, 2001 Florida
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    Well, Snickerdoodle is probably my favorite cookie.
     
  4. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Pooh-Bah (2,735) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    I take less offense in them using "adjuncts" than I do them calling this "beer".
     
  5. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Let's call them brewing adjuncts and flavoring adjuncts.
     
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  6. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,744) Apr 21, 2014 Canada (ON)
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    It is going to get confusing when we start seeing Pastry Budweiser. An ‘American adjunct adjunct lager’ I guess?
     
  7. Crusader

    Crusader Pooh-Bah (1,725) Feb 4, 2011 Sweden
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    It doesn't have an entry for rohfrucht? That is surprising. Malzsurrogat is also a recognized term, but it has a negative connotation, so if the use of unmalted cereals is discussed in a more neutral/objective manner, say in Ludwig Narziss's book Abriss der Bierbrauerei (he's not talking about brewing with apples :wink:), I would expect rohfrucht to be used, whereas if the use of such materials was being denigrated or contrasted with that of all malt brewing, I could see malzsurrogat being used.
     
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  8. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    No, it's there, too, but cross-referring it from English to German, would have needed to search for "unmalted grain".:wink:
     
  9. MistaRyte

    MistaRyte Pooh-Bah (2,681) Jan 14, 2008 Virginia
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    They're called Lime-a-Ritas. I heard they're made in a laboratory.
     
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  10. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Before the ____-A-Ritas, there was Michelob Chocolate Lager (came in a bottle that looked like a missile). Think there was also a Vanilla version?
     
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  11. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    If there was a Michelob vanilla beer packaged in a missile, then I’m not sure if the term “craft beer” has any meaning. :wink:
     
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  12. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    " If " ? Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition ...uh, Beer.
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  13. jasonmason

    jasonmason Zealot (742) Oct 6, 2004 California
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    Wow. I honestly never would have even supposed Michelob brewed a 10% abv lager, let alone a bourbon barrel aged one with vanilla. And in 2006 none the less.

    Once again, your archival knowledge impresses @jesskidden.
     
  14. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Looks like a "personal massage device" :flushed:
     
  15. VitisVinifera

    VitisVinifera Pundit (879) Feb 25, 2013 California

    because I love playing devil's advocate, winegrape juice beers - both a fermentable sugar and flavoring adjunct
     
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  16. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    We need a double-dip category too. How about double-dip adjunct?
     
  17. GuyFawkes

    GuyFawkes Grand Pooh-Bah (5,630) Apr 7, 2011 Illinois
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    Holy fuck.
     
  18. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    I think this gets into why the more formal brewing use of adjunct evolved into the modern 'flavoring' use, winegrape juice wouldn't be an adjunct by the most traditionalist standards because it's not a fermentable that relies on the excess enzymes of malted barley to make it accessible, right? Like honey was never an adjunct in that sense, nor was the belgian candy sugar. Unless I'm totally missing something I think the 'original' use of adjunct that I and others have advocated for was a starch (corn, rice, unmalted wheat, etc...) that required the extra enzymes present in the malted barley to become fermentable. It's not just any additional sugar added to the wort
     
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  19. VitisVinifera

    VitisVinifera Pundit (879) Feb 25, 2013 California

    I have to agree with everything you said
     
  20. WickedSluggy

    WickedSluggy Savant (1,129) Nov 21, 2008 Texas

    Yes. Michelob suppositories! Easier than swallowing it, and the effect is greatly increased.
     
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