New and planning to brew

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by Brianlt228, Dec 29, 2019.

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  1. Brianlt228

    Brianlt228 Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2019

    New to the forums, literally read about this site in a book named "The complete Guide to Brewing", in a case study written by a home brewer. I'm intending to begin brewing in few months after I have acquired all the equipment I will need as well as done a bunch of reading/ research. I mostly only drink porters, stouts, and imperial stouts. That is pretty much what is in my cellar now anyway. therefore, that is pretty much what I intend to brew. I see that most advice is to start with "easier" stuff, but I don't have any interest in drinking them, so I don't see the point of brewing something I don't want, other than the educational aspect (and I do see the value in it. I will definately be here often,per multiple recommendations, to learn and ask a million questions. Looking forward to the journey!!!
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Sounds like you're approaching your first brew day the right way.
     
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  3. Peach63

    Peach63 Pooh-Bah (2,442) Jul 17, 2019 New York
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    Welcome to BA. Check out the home brewing forum you can learn a lot there. I've been home brewing for 30+ years and I'm still learning. :beers:
     
  4. Brianlt228

    Brianlt228 Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2019

    While not the same, I am already a pretty decent home cook. I handmake my own pastas and breads, grow most of the herbs and pepper and such that I use and dry/ store them.Rarely if ever cook anything that comes out of a box, can or bag... I don't think I will have too many problems learning the basics or brewing. The intention is to brew from all grain / raw ingredients except for maybe using hops pellets due to the wider variety. I have no interest in syrups or pre-made items. For me, the joy will be in the creation, learning the science, and of course, enjoying the beer.
     
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  5. Peach63

    Peach63 Pooh-Bah (2,442) Jul 17, 2019 New York
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    If you can cook that well, you can home brew! And since you grow herbs, you can grow your own hops as I do.
     
  6. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Your attention to (cooking) detail will serve you well in brewing, but I'd be careful about assuming you can apply a lot of cooking principles directly (not that you did). Brewing is largely biochemical processes (much moreso than cooking). In fact, IIRC well over half of the flavor compounds in beer are yeast derived. That said, having a good palate is a definite plus.
     
  7. invertalon

    invertalon Pooh-Bah (2,249) Jan 27, 2009 Ohio
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    For what it's worth, process wise, porter/stouts tend to be the easiest to brew. No excessive hop losses and dry hopping to deal with, water is more forgiving and overall just fun to do.

    You sound a lot like me (basically a home chef and baker, also do traditional smoked BBQ and all that type of stuff), having those skills will for sure help things be easier.
     
  8. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Welcome to the BA site, Brian, and to the Homebrewing forum. You've found a place where you can learn a lot.

    I'm not familiar with the book that you've read, but it sounds like it has pointed you in the right direction. Just about all of us here have read John Palmer's book HowToBrew.com which is free to read online (1st edition). The latest edition (4th) is not very expensive, and the hard copy gives you something that you can highlight, write notes, etc and is highly recommended if you want more resource material.

    As a newbie, you might want your first batch to be brewed with malt extract along with steeping specialty grains. Doing that will give you the brewing basics, and the steeping is like a mini-mash. Then later you can learn the mashing process. It will greatly simplify your first brewing session and allow you to get your feet wet without all of the confusion of a busy day.

    Here's your first brewing tip: if you choose a kit recipe for your first brew, check the ingredients for freshness, especially the yeast. You can find a ton of other tips by doing a search of thread titles in this forum and using 'newbie' as your search word. If you haven't acquired equipment yet, do another search of thread titles and use 'equipment' as your search word.
     
  9. Gillespie1124

    Gillespie1124 Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2019

    Brian, I'm also new to brewing. I recently bought a starter kit I'm looking forward to expanding as get the basics down. As one other member mentioned I'm currently reading John Palmer's How To Brew, I believe I got the 4th edition for around $13.00. I've just started it but it's an interesting read as well as highly recommended. Good luck with your first brews!
     
  10. Brianlt228

    Brianlt228 Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2019

    Thank you!!! from what I have read it is the attention to details that I have learned as a cook/baker,and heck yeah..smoker that will be of the greatest benefit as well as a proper education.
     
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  11. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Do you have a good Local Homebrew Shop (LHBS) near you? If so I recommend that you purchase your starter equipment and ingredients for your first batch from them. The LHBS folks will be able to have a face-to-face discussion with you and answer your questions. The LHBS has a strong vested interest in making your first batch (and subsequent batches) a success.

    Cheers!
     
  12. Brianlt228

    Brianlt228 Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2019

    Yes sir, the book I'm reading suggested Palmers Book as well. I have already downloaded that 1st edition and have the 4th on the way via amazon :slight_smile: "Go - getter" that I am lol. I have already decided that the kit is a non-starter for me. I am seeking the experience of brewing just as much as I am the result of it, if that makes sense. As I have read further today, I do see the wisdom of doing extracts with specialty grains. to start with.. but to do so for me would be a stepping stone process, so much as it would be some thing I intend to pursue. I always have to go for the hardest thing... its just my nature. I cant buy pasta, I have to spend 4 hours hand rolling and cutting it, because the experience and the process are my therapy. I have not acquired one single piece of equipment, yet. I am 100% research and education at the moment. The equipment comes after I have visited no less than 3 different brew shops, spoken with those shop owners, as well as already having made contact with the local homebrewers club. Found them through the AHBA, and email already sent. Hopefully I get to attend their next meeting and hopefully meet someone that will let me be a "free help person" on a brew day just to see firsthand what I am getting my self into before I invest serious $$.
     
  13. Brianlt228

    Brianlt228 Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2019

    located 3 locally, and planning to visit them all.
     
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  14. invertalon

    invertalon Pooh-Bah (2,249) Jan 27, 2009 Ohio
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    @BrianIt228

    On a side note as well, I started right with all-grain brewing. It actually wasn't bad at all, just again more planning/reading ahead of time, especially in the various malts, yeasts and hops and what flavors and such they bring to the table... Things like learning about the max percentages of various grains (say, crystal and roast malts in recipe), temperature influences on fermentation and during your brewing processes, etc...

    My first brew days went super smooth... I simply made a "to-do" list with step-by-step instructions so I wouldn't forget anything. My first beer was my own, not a clone recipe. It came out fantastic... I remember really being shocked how good it was for my first attempt. Of course, every brew following got easier and since I knew the process, was able to tweak/refine it for my brewery and make things easier for myself.

    I actually believe all-grain brewing is a great way to start off versus extract type brewing. Nothing wrong with brew in a bag or extract to start off with, but if you are willing to take 5-6 hours start-to-finish on a brew day and believe you will stick with it (mainly due to additional equipment costs), I recommend it no doubt. It kind of forces you to better prepare your knowledge base for more advanced brewing, which IMO will only help the end product in your glass.

    Good luck on your first brews!
     
  15. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Do yourself a favor and ask the forum for a sanity check on whatever the LHBS guys tell you. Yes, some LHBSs are good. Many, perhaps most, are not. (Personally, I've encountered more bad than good.) Some of the most idiotic brewing advice I've heard has been from the mouths of LHBS employees. Hopefully, at least one of the three you have locally will be a winner.
     
  16. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I agree...it's possible to start off all-grain, if you put in the time to understand what you're doing ahead of time. But...

    I'd just point out that Brew-In-A-Bag is all-grain brewing. It's not IMO the best way to do all-grain, but it qualifies.
     
  17. Brianlt228

    Brianlt228 Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2019

    I agree completely, And u can guarantee that any advice will be forwarded thru here as well as any contacts I make with my local HBA. All in the name f continuity and favorable outcome. If i do something, I intend to only do it extremely well, or screw it up all the way. There is no in between
     
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  18. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    You can also get a head start by searching the BA database in the Places feature. Here's the link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/place/ Fill in your city and state and then check the Homebrew box on the right of your screen and you'll see which ones in your city are already in the database. Read the reviews but also check the dates to verify they are current. If any of the three that are near you aren't in the database, you can add them and write a review once you've evaluated and become acquainted with them. (This is a user-supported site, so your contributions can help others.)
     
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  19. Brewday

    Brewday Zealot (721) Dec 25, 2015 New York

    What size batches do you want to make.These styles require more grains which means larger equipment..
     
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  20. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    That is the case for Imperial Stouts.

    In my homebrewing the Stouts (e.g., Oatmeal Stout) and Porters I brew are of moderate gravity and I utilize a 'normal' amount of grains.

    Cheers!
     
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