Do you know if it's the same beer or just the same name? I think it was Victory who released a beer with that name. It was a nice but it was not the same as the beer Tom Baker brewed at the late great Heavyweight!
IIRC, it has been brewed several times by Tom Baker since the demise of Heavyweight, at his "Earth-Bread & Brewery" and now at Bar Hygge. Victory had to call their version "Baltic Thunder" because a local (Phila?) distributor still owned the distro. rights to the old Heavyweight beers. Victory also had to substitute the original, but unavailable, beans used as an adjunct with black-eyed peas.
Got it, I remember the change of beans forgot about the name change. Are the 1st beans available now?
Well, most sources called the original ones "Roman Beans" but this one from beer writer (and former BA IIRC) Norman Miller added: But, according to The Bean Institute (I don't know about you or the rest of BA, but when I need bean or legume info, that's my first stop on the internet ): And I don't see them adding much color to a dark beer...but that'd be true of black-eyed peas, too. As for availability? Beats me (check the ethnic aisle, bottom shelf, beneath the Goya Malta ). I sorta recall that Victory may have balked at the expense, so they may have been "unavailable (at the price that makes sense to us)"?
Yes, according to this account from Lew Bryson @therealbeerfly about Victory first brewing it:http://lewbryson.blogspot.com/2007/05/hammered.html He also comments that he had a hand in instigating and naming the beer at Heavyweight Brewing. Which looks like is backed up by the blurb on an old label:
Also, according a post on Bar Hygge / Brewery Techne's FB page from about a year ago, they have also canned it too. And this label does reference roman beans. But this years release looks to be draft only: "We’re not doing 4packs this time but it is available in 32oz Crowler cans!"
I’d love to see them do Cinder Bock again (Heavyweight was before my time but I heard good things about that beer)