Bad Trader: @bstyle

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  1. 7irondave

    7irondave Pooh-Bah (1,918) Jun 22, 2016 Massachusetts
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    A couple things @SierraNevallagash :
    • Why start this thread if you're waiting till monday?
    • You need to find better friends
    • If your trade negotiations are similar to this thread, maybe there was a little confusion about the urgency for the other person to ship. When you asked for shipping info or tracking info were you vague and beat around the bush? The other person might just feel this is an open ended trade if the conversation(s) was unclear. (I have a couple traders I swap boxes back and forth with. There's no timeline with either)
    • You only have one recorded trade with someone fron Indiana but he has 100% rating. He was on today if it's the same person so that eliminates extreme personal or health problems.
     
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  2. colby600

    colby600 Pooh-Bah (1,919) Mar 24, 2015 Connecticut
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    He has two from Indiana. It's the other one.
     
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  3. 7irondave

    7irondave Pooh-Bah (1,918) Jun 22, 2016 Massachusetts
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    Thanks.

    Somehow I overlooked jacked Stewie (who has also logged on today)
     
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  4. Rustytacos

    Rustytacos Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2018 California
    Trader

    @7irondave
    If your trade negotiations are similar to this thread, maybe there was a little confusion about the urgency for the other person to ship. When you asked for shipping info or tracking info were you vague and beat around the bush? The other person might just feel this is an open ended trade if the conversation(s) was unclear.

    I haven’t figured out how to quote on my cell phone but this quote here is totally plausible. Sometimes straight and direct conversations are better because it’s hard to tell what’s someone’s mood is online.

    This goes back to tagging the trader, not to make him feel bad, but to get to the bottom of this. We all know how you feel about this so the trader would have been ok in my mind.

    Still wondering about that delivery exception, maybe a little clarity on that as well.
     
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  5. SierraNevallagash

    SierraNevallagash Initiate (0) Sep 23, 2018 Maine
    Trader

    1. See entire conversation above. I've made that clear several times.

    2. Blank.

    3. The two people I said I trust to trade with without requests are not part of this thread whatsoever. Please pay closer attention before commenting like that.

    4. When asking for a box to be sent for over two months, I think it's difficult to misinterpret that. I'm happy to expand on this if still unclear.

    5. Not true. Again, paying attention is clear to understanding details.
     
  6. SierraNevallagash

    SierraNevallagash Initiate (0) Sep 23, 2018 Maine
    Trader

    I am too, however, this is precisely the reason I said I would wait until Monday. I was given an excuse, albeit questionable, and was told the box would be (re)shipped on Monday. If that is the case, and it arrives, then no harm no foul. If I am not given tracking come Monday, then I have EVERYTHING in place, people to back me up, and simply need to tag him. But 48 hours online without criticism and sarcasm is an awfully long time.
     
  7. 4truth

    4truth Pundit (806) Jan 30, 2015 Illinois
    Trader

    You seem like a nice dude. I try to be a nice dude most of the time but in situations like this, I seek relevant answers and information like a fucking dog on a bone. In my opinion, after two months of the runaround you deserve answers and information.

    I would demand a tracking number. Tonight.

    I would open another trade request. Tonight.

    I would tag the trader. Tonight.
     
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  8. 7irondave

    7irondave Pooh-Bah (1,918) Jun 22, 2016 Massachusetts
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    We really should let the OP tag the other person when he is ready
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  9. SierraNevallagash

    SierraNevallagash Initiate (0) Sep 23, 2018 Maine
    Trader

    Well thank you. I like to think I am, but I take issue with unnecessary, sarcastic, non-constructive criticism for the sake of criticism, so I can be a jerk towards other jerks.

    I have asked for a tracking number. I never received it, and I'm assuming if there was in fact a shipping issue, that a new tracking number would be created tomorrow.

    I did in fact send another trade request, with a message detailing that it was purged. It has not been accepted.

    I gave the name of the trader, which - judging my all the PMs I got, was what people really wanted, as I'd be doing a "disservice to the community" by not publicising the name - so I did.

    The way I see it, if he's gonna ship, he's going to ship early tomorrow. Therefore, I figured I could give a few more hours of leeway. If I don't receive a reply with a tracking number, there will be a tag.
     
  10. SierraNevallagash

    SierraNevallagash Initiate (0) Sep 23, 2018 Maine
    Trader

    Half of me is laughing, half of me is calling you a dick.
     
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  11. 7irondave

    7irondave Pooh-Bah (1,918) Jun 22, 2016 Massachusetts
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Happy to oblige to either half, it doesn't bother me which one that is
     
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  12. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Considering they're already under the pristine 100% rating, and your trade is officially not official in the database, they're probably happy to wash their hands of you.

    Next time, ask for a tracking number as soon as they say they are shipping. And if they don't give it to you in two days while simultaneously saying it's on the way, that's when you question it, and start considering alternative options.

    If it's an actual friend you trust, you typically don't open trade requests, and by extension, you don't ask about it in an open forum. You deal with it between the two of you, and if unresolved, stop being friends...
     
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  13. SierraNevallagash

    SierraNevallagash Initiate (0) Sep 23, 2018 Maine
    Trader

    I have you blocked, because you're annoying, and you follow me around BA like a little puppy, picking apart everything I say with no rational justification, and you twist my words to create an entirely different impression and point from what I say. You know damn well that isn't what happened, and I would encourage you to provide a link to that forum, if you're going to lie out of your ass for likes and attention. Let me ask you, when did I ever complain about people "not sending me whales for my shitty beer it's not fair beer values are unjust (for me only)"? Can you cite that? No, I gave a detailed example of beers that trade crazy high that I have obtained in $4$ trades with people who aren't completely obsessed with arbitrary secondary value - people like you who have an absolute hard on for hype culture, artificial rarity, and ticking. I encouraged beginners and other traders to explore their options before spending hundreds of dollars on a single beer, because there are people out there who are less superficial and materialistic than you are, who simply have a desire to share good beer with good people. You're so obsessed with your own beer ticking history that you try to safeguard these ridiculous perceived values, while simultaneously putting yourself on a pedestal because you think you're better than others, because you've slain soooo many whalez, bro. This isn't even relevant to this thread.

    You have misquoted me several times in this thread, and I don't appreciate it. I said I have two people that I casually and regularly trade with - trader in question not included, and sometimes send a request late to them or just send beer to informally - you turned that into "I don't use the feedback system". False. You accuse me of "intentionally withholding information" - where did that come from? I will happily blow this thread up with play-by-play screenshots from the beginning of this trade debacle, so you can see how ridiculous that is. You complain I haven't been forthcoming. What haven't I revealed here? I can't help but wonder why you're even here. You've contributed nothing to this thread but your immature, snarky comments, and your proclivity for bending the truth and twisting my words. This is why I have you ignored. If you're going to contribute to the forums, contribute something useful instead of your incessant sarcasm and complaining. That isn't what BeerAdvocate is about. I shouldn't even have to write all this, but you need to be called out on this if you're going to meticulously criticise everything I say.

    There's my overly verbose post of the day.
     
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  14. 7irondave

    7irondave Pooh-Bah (1,918) Jun 22, 2016 Massachusetts
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  15. SierraNevallagash

    SierraNevallagash Initiate (0) Sep 23, 2018 Maine
    Trader

    @bstyle I'm sorry about this, man. Hoping you can just step in and clear a few things up here. I'm not accusing anyone of anything here, but I think there are a few things that need to be cleared up, at this point, for everyone's sake - yours included. If there's any misunderstanding here, I want you to have an opportunity to explain anything, because it wouldn't be fair for me to close this without giving you an opportunity to clarify anything. I don't want anyone walking away with the wrong impression.
     
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  16. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    I stopped reading after the second sentence.

    We have literally had two exchanges that I can think of, including this one. Sounds like you're the one that's hung up on it. And I stand by my words here and in the trade value thread.

    There's a certain clarity of thought and self-awareness that you seem to lack, and if your trade negotiations are anything like your thread posts, I can see why things would go wrong.

    Don't take that as trying to give a bad trader a pass, if he is indeed one (we've yet to hear their side), but you really could have helped yourself out a lot here.
     
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  17. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
    Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Based on this post, I'm assuming you didn't get a tracking number from @bstyle today. Is that correct?

    It also appears as if he hasn't been on BA for roughly 14 hours. Hopefully when he logs back on, he can respond to this thread.
     
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  18. SierraNevallagash

    SierraNevallagash Initiate (0) Sep 23, 2018 Maine
    Trader

    That is correct, however, it's still quite early. I wouldn't be too worried until after 5pm.
     
  19. bstyle

    bstyle Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2006 Indiana

    As I mentioned via text, you will have a tracking number today, GUARANTEED.

    I have over 200 trades to my name. Not one issue, EVER.
     
  20. KevinJohnson2

    KevinJohnson2 Savant (1,049) Jul 8, 2013 Michigan
    Society Trader

    So, any interest in giving your side of the story here? 200 trades or not, OP seems to be getting jerked around here based on what he’s shared. Always like to hear the other person’s perspective.
     
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