Kane Brewing (2020)

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  1. stairway2heavn

    stairway2heavn Zealot (746) Aug 17, 2017 New Jersey

    Plastic cups won't stop transmission in a line or crowded tap room. The idea that hand sanitizer, hand washing, and loose fitting surgical masks are preventive for Coronavirus is incorrect. It's respiratory droplets as the primary mode. Actually there are some experts saying it MAY be airborne (not just droplets). Which just doubles down on the fact that surfaces aren't the primary problem.
    Stopping a release is one thing but to suppress spread this social distancing you're talking about 2 months, not a single weekend because Cheetolini finally got scared the market is tanking and is implementing a travel ban that likely won't have a big effect anyway. I personally wouldn't be going out of my way to hang out on a crowded taproom unnecessarily, but I'll probably still intermittently buy stuff (Kane/other half/tired hands). But this is all likely to continue to be an issue for months. More likely than truly voluntary holds on releases, these breweries would have to either be forced by authorities or see the popularity decline secondary to panic to the point they see no point in holding releases.
     
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  2. stairway2heavn

    stairway2heavn Zealot (746) Aug 17, 2017 New Jersey

    Like I said in the prior post, it's in the air. Not touching your face and washing your hands is nice, but to those in the forums that are older or have chronic health issues I would be more wary and maybe stick to liquor stores at low business times rather than crowded brewery releases. Likely things will get worse before they get better, especially with how people can spread it before serious symptoms come on, unlike say SARS.
     
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  3. bryantc3

    bryantc3 Initiate (0) Apr 12, 2017 New Jersey
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    i agree with you. But that 4pk in the store was gonna be touched by a hell of a lot more people than the 4pk at the brewery. So, stock up now - and sanitize the outside of the cans if you are someone who is elderly or has other health issues. I'm generally healthy and in my 30s, but I still wipe things down.

    covid is gonna get worse before it gets better forsure. but i don't think (hope) that it won't get to the point where there are mandatory business shut downs. Look at New Rochelle - they're quarantined but SMBs can still function as usual.
     
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  4. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    Someone's been listening to Joe Rogan...that doctor saying it's transmissible from general breathing is fear mongering and making statements contrary to the global scientific community.

    Until there is consensus to that effect, he should not be stating that.

    The only airborne particles so far listed as transmitting the virus are from coughs and sneezes.
     
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  5. Pork-Roll

    Pork-Roll Initiate (0) Jan 15, 2019 New Jersey

    it isn't the release that bugs me it is the hyping of the release. If kane announced they were selling at 5 today the beer would still get sold, probably last until saturday and prevent a huge mass of humanity from gathering. Kane is not alone in this but i personally think kane and others should dehype for a bit.
     
  6. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    That’s what i was trying to say in a better way @Pork-Roll thank you. And I wasn’t trying to single out kane theyre honestly the only “release” brewery I still follow and this is the kane thread. Hopefully everything works out for them and anyone who wants the beer this weekend.
     
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  7. anfield86

    anfield86 Pooh-Bah (2,606) Nov 21, 2006 New Jersey
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    I really think it's best for everyone to stay home. Everyone should just play it safe and stay healthy.

    Don't worry folks, I'll let you know how it goes. I'm risking my life for you guys; no need to thank me. I'm taking venmo donations if you want to support my heroism.
     
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  8. fdonnelly

    fdonnelly Maven (1,303) Dec 14, 2016 New Jersey
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    Breweries are going to remain open and brewing beer until they are forced to stop or one of their employees contracts the virus IMO. Outside that the only way I see some of them closing up shop for a time, is if business gets so bad from retail accounts and taproom sales that they don't have a reason to open because people aren't going out, and we have not reached that point here yet.
     
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  9. Tim725

    Tim725 Pundit (875) Mar 8, 2014 New Jersey
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    Would help to keep a lot of us home if they started allowing delivery services in the area :grin:

    Social distancing enforced by getting rid of the lines and we still get our beer !
     
  10. Pork-Roll

    Pork-Roll Initiate (0) Jan 15, 2019 New Jersey

    I don't think we will reach that point either. Having a pint at kane is not a big deal especially if it is not packed.
     
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  11. fdonnelly

    fdonnelly Maven (1,303) Dec 14, 2016 New Jersey
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    Its not, but also you don't know who is there/has been there, what they have touched, who they have been in contact with. As infection grows and fear grows along with it, you could see things you didn't think could happen take place. It will be an interesting next few weeks
     
  12. mumbles44

    mumbles44 Savant (1,034) Jan 22, 2016 New Jersey
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    +1 on this...breweries are a business in the long run. They have no idea if the people coming in their doors are infected. They get an employee infected and they have to completely clean the brewery(which we know they do anyway) and loose work force. Would they be forced to dump beer, alter their brew schedule,,etc

    Could be smarter for breweries to open hours for "to-go" only and sell from a designated area in the long run..keep people out of your tasting room and that area clean. I understand they brew extra beer but could be a way to pass additional special kegs to some draft accounts..

    again just spitt balling but personaly as someone young, healthy in my 30's i wouldnt want to take the change in any small space
     
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  13. bryantc3

    bryantc3 Initiate (0) Apr 12, 2017 New Jersey
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    Magnify generally has a "to-go" only set of hours each week.

    edit: Not Kane nor an NJ brewery. But trillium is taking solid steps.

    • cancelled their 7th anniversary with options for full refund OR partial refund and ability to pick up the various beers, glass, etc. the VIPs would have received
    • putting a hold on filling customer supplied growlers - will provide new glass growlers for free for fills
    • pausing staff representation at out of state beer fests/events
    • disinfecting all public surfaces after every guest leaves (bar seats included)
     
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  14. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    Dump beer because of coronavirus? :rofl::joy::rofl::joy::rofl::joy:

    Internet doctors :popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:
     
  15. stairway2heavn

    stairway2heavn Zealot (746) Aug 17, 2017 New Jersey

    Oh I've read the CDC info, especially working in a hospital. It's technically respiratory droplets, maybe airborne but no definitive info and certainly I wouldn't claim that myself, only that yes I agree a small number of people suggesting it may be since it's spread pretty impressively, like that guy (who agreed stated WAY TOO CONFIDENTLY that's it's airborne, not just droplet). My point is surfaces aren't the problem, and generally as a medical professional reusing surgical masks isn't going to prevent a thing. I saw one clip suggesting recirculated air in planes could be an issue, but CDC had stated it's probably fine (recirculated air). So plastic cups aren't going to solve the issue. You're not likely getting something across the room, but usually respiratory droplets is around 6 ft (when coughing/sneezing). Now studies I saw in the past obviously didn't deal with THIS virus. I would still obviously wash hands etc, but if your worried enough that you think plastic cups are helping, as a brewery, it's time to re-eval your concerns, since you're way more likely to get this via droplet in a line waiting for a pastry stout or growler than touching a doorknob.
    Basically though, both with the rarity of masks and how disposable they're meant to be, going around wearing them isn't a great plan any more than assuming plastic cups will save the day. Hopefully breweries find ways maybe like Hudson valley to not have lines all early morning with line shares if this continues,as it probably will for 3-6 months.
     
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  16. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    Just saw a different brewery post that they are having plastic cups instead of glasses. Get your own cup sort of thing.

    Have they never seen a person grab the entire stack of cups? Or have they never seen a person struggle to get the top cup, and pull on the lips of other cups below to get it off?

    Worse plan than properly training a single dishwasher (or two) to handle clean glasses properly, and for bartenders to leave their fingers off the lips of glasses.

    I mean, it's getting to the point that so much BS, i'll-informed micromanaging is occurring, without realizing, everyone eats food, and all that food is touched by dozens of individuals. Not to mention the damn checkout surface!
     
  17. mumbles44

    mumbles44 Savant (1,034) Jan 22, 2016 New Jersey
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    hey bro....that was a question...meaning i was wondering if that could happen...

    you are just a terrible person on here...back to being blocked..

    edited out my aggressive language
     
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  18. bryantc3

    bryantc3 Initiate (0) Apr 12, 2017 New Jersey
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    Kane Covid update
    • will NOT be pouring any draft beer this weekend
    • Will be open for cans, bottles, crowler, and merch sales (as long as it's safe for staff and guests)
    • Still opening at 10AM saturday; can/bottle sales will be through back door in the courtyard
    • will NOT be accepting cash
    • will NOT be doing fills of guest provided growlers
    • since they are not pouring beer - they will not be doing tours/handing out tour cards
    • staff will wear gloves and be cleaning/sanitizing
    • if you're at risk or exhibiting symptoms - please avoid visiting

     
  19. Dreamer57

    Dreamer57 Zealot (685) Apr 13, 2015 New Jersey
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    Wish they were offering mixed 4s of the Omna variants
     
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  20. mumbles44

    mumbles44 Savant (1,034) Jan 22, 2016 New Jersey
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    Same... or at least go the carton way and do 2 cans of each..

    I am hoping buddy goes and we can split with a few of us.. i just want to grab one of each
     
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