BrewCipher 6

All! I use most of them on a regular basis.

 

Much appreciated!

 

@VikeMan is Wyermann Beech Smoked Barley Malt is the same as "Smoked Malt, German" in the brewcipher 6.0 grainlookup.....or is it close enough to use the 'German' values?

 

Thank you, sir!

 

Thank you so much VikeMan for Brewcipher
I have been using it for about 4 years

I have been using V4.23 for ages, and moved to 6 today.
It seems to be wildly different (and incorrect for me) in calculating my mash pH
recipe is - 7.5kg (75%) wayerman pils, 1kg (10%) vienna, 1kg(10%) Wayerman pale wheat .5kg carapils for 46L batch 30L strike water
Adding 10g cacl2 12g caso4 to highly filtered basically distilled water (I have it set to 100% distilled in water tab)

V4.23 says to add 5ml 88% Phosphoric to reach 5.28, which I did last time
V6 says ph 5.24 with no other additions other than salts
So I tried no additions, thinking maybe PH was why my last batch of the same recipe wasn't quite right. however PH measured was around 5.5

Any ideas what could be amiss?

I also though what if I add acid malt instead and see it's effect , on 4.23 100g drops ph by .08 on V6 it drops it 3.92

I checked all my brew-house values and as far as I can tell they are all the same

Thanks

 

Thanks for the prompt reply @VikeMan
-I use organic weyerman pils and wheat, so that's likely different (though the old version was pretty good at estimating the ph)
-I did a calibration of the PH meter during my tests and it was still calibrated, it's a designed for home-brew meter with ATC, so should be pretty close.
-I have Tank water with a very fine (.1 micron) filter, my TDS is about the same as when I had an actual RO system, so it should be very low on minerals, just whatever comes off the concrete tiles and gets past the filter.
My files are here - https://1drv.ms/u/s!AsCPyct93gKOg84vzXnmujB_bxzPBA?e=IQs6L8
I am wondering if there is some imperial/metric translation not working properly? as it behaves so differently.

I'll probably stay on the old one for now, or both till I work it out, but thought this feed back might reveal a bug in the code.

IMO brewcipher is just so much better than any of the other programs out there, love your [teams] work. I have 69 batches done so far

 

Hey @VikeMan i just had a random thought this morning and now I have to ask... is brewcipher infinitely scalable? Could a professional brewery use your software to build say a 30 BBL recipe, or do formulas get somehow skewed? Is there anything in professional brewing software that isn’t in your software or vice versa, either out of convenience of necessity?
Thanks!

 

Ha, good to know... and yes, I have yet to stop having my mind blown by how accurate your FG estimate is every time.

Also, I meant no slight by not calling brewcipher professional software, as it is the best thing I have ever used!

 

Thanks for the update, especially the scratch pad and unlocking Excel tools in that tab.

 

Thanks for the update @VikeMan
The PH seems improved (I use metric)
I'll be very careful and confirm my ph next brew day, in about 2 weeks time. I guess the unknown variables are my water and my Organic version of the Weyermann grains. Probably the easiest thing would be if I buy some RO water for my next brew to be sure of that variable.

Is there any simple way I can do a test for my grain to see how it compares to your values for the non-organic version?

The Acidified malt in the water tab seems to be out still 100g lowers my ph by 0.08 in v4.23 but v6.1 lowers it by 3.43
Acid malt has never been that effective at lowering ph! (200g was usually enough in this recipe to drop ~ 0.2 into my preferred range, v6.1 says 6g is enough)

I have added my example and even converted 6.1 to imperial if that helps (the numbers seem to behave the same whether metric or imperial with 6.1)
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AsCPyct93gKOg84vzXnmujB_bxzPBA?e=XBdyid

Thanks

 

Gday @VikeMan, Thanks again for looking into bugs.
I have put my data into v6.2 and it looks a lot closer to what I'd expect for the PH and Acid malt
I did notice another error, possibly only a display error. (in 6.1 and 6.2)
In the water tab it's not showing the same grain weights as the recipe tab

The recipe is 7.5kg, 1kg, 1kg, 0.5kg (it's multiplied all except for the 1st grain by 2.2)
Water tab table is showing;
Grain Color Deg L Type Kilograms Grist Fraction (f)
Weyermann Pilsner 2 B 7.50 0.75
Weyermann Pale Wheat 2 W 2.20 0.10
Vienna (generic) 3.5 B 2.20 0.10
Briess Carapils 2 C 1.10 0.05

Example is here - https://1drv.ms/u/s!AsCPyct93gKOg84vzXnmujB_bxzPBA?e=3bbqMf

Thanks

 

Thanks @VikeMan My brew on the weekend went well, the PH calculations for my similar recipe but using only salts, malts and acid malt came in at 5.25 my actual readings at 10 minutes and a few other points during the mash were between 5.22 to 5.26 mostly 5.23 - so in terms of grain differences, measurement variance and volume errors I think that's spot-on now.

Thanks