How close is local?

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  1. MrKsBeer

    MrKsBeer Initiate (0) Mar 31, 2009 Massachusetts

    I recently developed a "local brews" door at our store in MA, and am having trouble deciding what "Local" really means. Is it within a certain number of miles? Is it just within the state? It is only the brewpubs within stumbling distance of my house?

    What is "Local" to Beer Advocates?
    Does the brewery's proximity change the way you feel about a beer?
     
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  2. cbeer88

    cbeer88 Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2007 Massachusetts

    I consider "local" to be anything from New England. Combined New England is no bigger than a state like Wisconsin or Minnesota, so it strikes me as reasonable. Culturally we also share an awful lot.
     
  3. raffels

    raffels Initiate (0) Dec 12, 2009 West Virginia

    IIRC, for produce and the like it's around 200 miles from any given point. Depending on where you're at, that could include 2 or 3 states. Unless you're in Texas, of course. Then you're likely to be in the same county.:slight_smile:
     
  4. Dools9

    Dools9 Pooh-Bah (1,788) Jul 5, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Same with me. Living in the Boston area, anything within the New England I consider local to me. However, breweries within and hour driving distance like Jack's Abby and Mayflower Brewing Co. I consider even more local because of their easy accessibility and close proximity.
     
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  5. tkelley

    tkelley Initiate (0) Sep 23, 2010 Massachusetts

    For me local is a mental or emotional thing. I look to places from near where I grew up which is about fifty miles from where I live now. Also its cultural - I am currently drinking a Mayflower in part because I considers the theme of the brewery part of my heritage in a way that I don't consider, say, Harpoon or Blue Hills. The brewers mentality is important.

    Of course, there aresome things are seemingly undeniably local. JacksAbbey istwo miles away so even if it wasn't the best new brewery of the year I would think of it as local.

    Another consideration is whether the beer and the brewery mean something to the community. I love Ipswich ales and I think part of it is because they are very connected totbe local community and they use tons of local producers for their ingredients and tons of other breweries by contract brewing (clownshoes, cisco and others).
     
  6. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,775) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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    I think it also has to do with the amount of breweries are in the state/area to begin with. Since Florida breweries are scarce, I consider Cigar City to be local even though they're a four hour drive away from me.
     
  7. HeyJim

    HeyJim Initiate (0) Sep 22, 2012 Pennsylvania

    I have three levels of local.

    Micro-local, which would be the Pittsburgh area.
    Mezzo-local, which would be Pennsylvania.
    Macro-local, which would be Pennsylvania, Ohio, New York, Maryland, New Jersey, and to a certain extent, Virgina.

    But usually when I say local, I mean Pennsylvania.

    Edit : Also, if I can't get it regularly, it's obviously not local to me.
     
  8. NickMunford

    NickMunford Pooh-Bah (2,094) Oct 2, 2006 Wyoming
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    To me, local is anything within San Diego county.
     
  9. MagillaGriller

    MagillaGriller Initiate (0) Aug 20, 2012

    If I can be there and back w/out getting arrested. It's local..
     
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  10. 5thOhio

    5thOhio Pooh-Bah (1,571) May 13, 2007 South Carolina
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    Within your state.
     
  11. BB1313

    BB1313 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,290) Jul 16, 2009 Ohio
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    As others have said, I guess there's different levels of "local". For me in Cleveland, I consider Great Lakes, Fat Head's, The Brew Kettle, and Willoughby Brewing Company true local breweries because I can drive to all of them in 30 minutes or less. Then there's Akron breweries like Hoppin' Frog and Thirsty Dog which I consider "local" (NE Ohio), but on a different scale. And for me, all Ohio breweries in general have a "local" taste to it. For example Columbus Brewing feels local, even though we're 4hrs apart, which would be on the lowest scale of "local" for me.
     
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  12. HANGOVER

    HANGOVER Initiate (0) Nov 23, 2012

    Within an hour and a half of my house, if I wouldn't drive there and back on a Saturday it's not local.
     
  13. cid71

    cid71 Zealot (614) Mar 2, 2009 New Jersey
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    Brewed in USA. USA owned
     
  14. MrKsBeer

    MrKsBeer Initiate (0) Mar 31, 2009 Massachusetts

    The reason I'm asking is because we ran out Blue Hills Comet Tail, and the Harpoon Winter. I want to fill the spots until we get more beer on Thursday, but I'm torn on which ones. For instance, I could do Allagash from Maine and make it the new england door, but Long Trail and Magic hat are New England, and I don't have room for all of them.

    Or I could do Narragansett from RI, which is closer milage-wise, but I don't know if I'd count them as a local craft brewer. idk I'm just confused.
     
  15. lucasj82

    lucasj82 Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2009 Indiana

    Within an hour to hour and half drive sounds about right.
     
  16. robinsmv

    robinsmv Initiate (0) Jun 24, 2010 Florida

    I would say local is a brewery that you don't have to plan your entire day around to visit. So I guess that would be what? Hour? Hour and a half?
     
  17. mikeincharleston

    mikeincharleston Initiate (0) May 1, 2009 North Carolina

    I consider local to be the city you are in but obviously it's a matter of opinion and if you think something is local who can tell you you're wrong?
     
  18. Adamshmadam

    Adamshmadam Initiate (0) Jul 8, 2012 Georgia

    I like this answer. Having good beer brewed close to you should create a sense of pride. If you can brag about the brewery being close to you, whether it is down the street in somewhere in your state, it is a local brewery.
     
  19. deleted_user_553489

    deleted_user_553489 Zealot (531) Jan 16, 2011

    Hangar 24 is about 10 minutes away; The Bruery (which I visit more often) is about 50 minutes away, and Bootlegger's about 5 minutes from that.
     
  20. Giantspace

    Giantspace Grand Pooh-Bah (3,043) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    around here a few bars that serve only local define local as 100 miles. Most times the beers are from in Philly or just outside. Althogh PBR is the cheap "crap on tap" at one of them.

    Enjoy
     
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