Adding packaged on/best buy dates

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  1. officerbill

    officerbill Pooh-Bah (2,228) Feb 9, 2019 New York
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    Discussion over Weihenstephaner date codes and Von Trapp BB made me wonder:
    How about somewhere on BA that translates brewery date codes and tells how far out a brewery Best By is from the canning/bottling date?

    Maybe on the brewery's page or as a sticky on Beers with a generic “best within X years of bottling” for some styles.
     
  2. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    That would be a good idea, but yea I guess it would have to be condensed or simplified in some way cause of so many breweries, etc.
     
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    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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  4. officerbill

    officerbill Pooh-Bah (2,228) Feb 9, 2019 New York
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    It wouldn't have to be for every brewery, only those who use odd date codes or only have a best by date.
    Nothing needs to be done for breweries providing a canned/bottled date on the packaging.
    Under the style descriptions could be a quick “beers of this style generally maintain their flavor for X months after bottling”
     
  5. Cubatobaco

    Cubatobaco Pooh-Bah (2,057) Jan 27, 2013 Virginia
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    I'm sure there's a reason, but why don't all beer companies supply a "bottled on" date?
     
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  6. readyski

    readyski Pooh-Bah (1,557) Jun 4, 2005 California
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    If you have to ask why, the reason is usually :money_mouth:
     
  7. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Including a simple date code translation in the "notes" field for a brewery is a great idea that I imagine is easy to execute. For example, just add this to the notes field for Weihenstephaner: "DATE CODE: The last number is the last number of the year. The middle two numbers are the week of the year. The first number is the last number in the day."
     
  8. officerbill

    officerbill Pooh-Bah (2,228) Feb 9, 2019 New York
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    Picture, if you will, $16/4 packs of IPA's, from four different breweries, sitting on your beer store's shelf. It's August 18th, will you choose the beer canned on May 15th, June 21st, July 15th, or August 2nd? :thinking_face:
     
  9. slander

    slander Pooh-Bah (2,568) Nov 5, 2001 New York
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    There are some breweries that riddle this with ambiguity intentionally so long in the tooth or out of code product cannot be clearly defined.

    There are some breweries that come across like it's a no issue. Our beer is soooo good that it's going to rip and it'll never be a question. You get it, you'll drink it immediately it's so good, it'll be gone quickly, and never linger (except that you're using it for trade bait and shipping it away away away). Works pretty well if you're selling out of your house and only out of your house directly to the consumer.

    Any there are some breweries that are extending their code dates during Covid. Beer that was good for 90 days is now good for 135 days (good luck putting that genie back in the bottle when COVID is over). In this case, you're much better off having a born on date, as opposed to a best buy date (which may have passed already regardless of your 'extension' of good product).
     
  10. Cubatobaco

    Cubatobaco Pooh-Bah (2,057) Jan 27, 2013 Virginia
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    I could get a fresh IPA and a recently canned Barleywine! Lol!
     
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  11. thebeeremptor

    thebeeremptor Pundit (764) Aug 12, 2018 California
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    If a customer can't easily tell when a beer was packaged/when it expires, then they may not cause a fuss, assuming they care enough about how fresh it is.

    If a buyer can't easily tell when a beer was packaged/when it expires, it's added work on their part to manage the freshness, assuming they're a buyer that cares.

    Ambiguity benefits certain entities. Ambiguity means it's harder to know when something is out of code. OOC is a pain in the ass for everyone involved so they don't want to deal with it if they don't have to.

    Can codes that are not clear at a glance are worse than no can code, IMO.
     
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  12. MacMalt

    MacMalt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,322) Jan 28, 2015 New Jersey
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    At this point I rarely buy an IPA without an actual canning date, as opposed to a code, unless I know it's fresh because the release information is available online. There's too much great fresh IPA available to potentially waste $16 or more on what turn out to be old cans. I also give priority to buying locally from brewers who date their cans plainly.
     
  13. joerooster2

    joerooster2 Aspirant (254) Aug 18, 2020 District of Columbia

    Some smaller breweries simply don't have the capability with their packaging equipment but any national brand has no excuse, imo. Simple for me though, I won't buy the beer if I can't figure out when it was packaged within 5 seconds of picking it up...I don't bother with Lagunitas for this reason.
     
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  14. Cubatobaco

    Cubatobaco Pooh-Bah (2,057) Jan 27, 2013 Virginia
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    I was remarking to guy in the office today, in regards to this thread, that if I have top-notch 4pk in my hand, and can't find the date/smugged/not present, I will put it back and grab something less stellar that I know is "fresh" by a date on the packaging.

    Laguitas uses the Julian dates on or around the neck/stamped on packing. I can usually figure them out based on what my birthday is (283 = Oct.10). Hope that helps.
     
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  15. joerooster2

    joerooster2 Aspirant (254) Aug 18, 2020 District of Columbia

    I'm aware, the ink is usually difficult to read on the bottles (dark ink on a dark bottle). Considering they have the resources to put the date in a standard format that most people are used to, in lighter ink or on the label, it just says they don't want people to know how fresh/old their beers are.
     
  16. officerbill

    officerbill Pooh-Bah (2,228) Feb 9, 2019 New York
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    Several breweries seem to prefer small font, water soluble, black ink on dark brown bottles
     
  17. Cubatobaco

    Cubatobaco Pooh-Bah (2,057) Jan 27, 2013 Virginia
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    Agreed!
     
  18. Stevedore

    Stevedore Grand Pooh-Bah (5,096) Nov 16, 2012 Oregon
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    When at the store, this is my standard operating procedure as well.
     
  19. G_Harn78

    G_Harn78 Aspirant (252) Mar 13, 2020 California

    I will only buy if there’s a bottled/can on date. Unless it’s something local and limited and know it has to be fresh. Bought too many “past their prime” beers, may be ok at $8/12-pack, not at $10+/4-pack.
     
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  20. jaxon53

    jaxon53 Pooh-Bah (2,235) Mar 1, 2006 Connecticut
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    I agree.. we spend good money on this stuff. How nice is it to get home and pop a shitty can of beer that was $15/ 4 pack.. No more beer for me without a date.
     
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