A nice head on a beer

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Condorito, Oct 13, 2020.

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  1. Beer_Stan

    Beer_Stan Initiate (0) Mar 15, 2014 California
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    Nah, The customer should definitely be considered, but they are definitely not always right. I feel that way even when I'm the customer, I don't like not having my thoughts or feelings not considered as a patron, but I'm happy if the staff knows I'm making a poor choice or am incorrect about something and they want to tell me about it because I am definitely not always right.
     
  2. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Or lambics, sours, gose, Berliner’s. I’m just being a dick here, but I agree. I love a dense foamy head that spews aromatic goodness. I’d prefer a nice head on a stout, but it’s just not the nature of the beast.
     
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  3. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    You know, we could be going the other way here too.

    A stupid foamy mess of a half filled pint glass pisses me off. Pour the damn beer correctly, and give me what I paid for. It's bad enough you don't post prices or glass size, and now i am getting stiffed with an under pour too? Bull shit man. Just bull shit.
    Underpoured beers are a much bigger problem than not enough foam. In my experience.

    But I am a draft guy, and notice these things. Crappy draft systems and lazy bartenders really grind my gears! You are not being a dick if you ask for what you are paying for, quite the opposite in fact.
    Cheers
     
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  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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  5. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    This is an underappreciated aspect of a good bar/brewery. Listen to me, understand what I'm requesting, and then please offer some.guidance (assuming the staff is well trained and knowledgeable). If you wanna be a AAA beer bar/store in my book, you should be able to guide me to things I would normally overlook
     
  6. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Grand Pooh-Bah (3,732) Sep 15, 2014 Colorado
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    I was pretty pleased with the head I generated on this Kronenbourg 1664 a few days ago.

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  7. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Huh? You're drinking the wrong stouts then. :slight_smile:
     
  8. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Beers like BC and a good many of the BBA stouts are so minimal in head you need glasses to see them.
     
  9. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    That's more likely a product of barrel aging and very high alcohol (and even possibly any added flavoring ingredients) than anything else. You were just saying it's the nature of stouts, but there's more to stouts than the bourbon barrel aged variety. There are oodles of stouts that will pour with a head. :slight_smile:
     
  10. dlcarst

    dlcarst Zealot (733) Aug 21, 2015 Missouri
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    Way too many beers have little head or head that disappears quickly. I find this to be most frequently the case with pastry stouts and hazy IPAs (especially with lactose). Is it the added ingredients that cause a lack of head or that the brewery is often just trying to make $$$ on hyped styles with less attention to overall quality?
     
  11. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Lol, your absolutely right, I was thinking mainly about the stouts I drink.
     
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  12. readyski

    readyski Pooh-Bah (1,557) Jun 4, 2005 California
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    I feel that any discussion about head must include Orval - what a wonderful, lasting, evolving, aromatic and irregular head that is!
     
  13. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I get suspicious of dirty lines or dirty glasses or old stock when I see an AAL on tap and it’s flat looking with minimal head. If anything most if they’re fresh tend to be over carbonated a bit, of course it didn’t mean the beer is flat, just makes me take a second look. Yuengling is everywhere here, that particular beer at one bar typically has no head at all a few minutes after being poured, could be their system too.
     
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  14. ChicagoJ

    ChicagoJ Grand Pooh-Bah (5,247) Feb 2, 2015 Illinois
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    Yes, at home I pour to maximize head, but out I am fine with little to no head to maximize beer, as most places pour into a shaker pint glass. A few places here have proper glassware to accommodate a full draft pour, and leave room for a proper head.
     
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