Bad Trader: TallGuyCM

Bummer, Mitchell, but it doesn’t look like you guys used the feedback system. I know if it’s a repeat trader people can get complacent with the system, but it’s a key backup for situations like this.

Edit: I see you left him feedback, but he did not for you for the July one. I had only checked your trades.

Hopefully it can get resolved. Good luck!

 

So they never accepted your trade request in August?

 

It's the responsibility of each trader to land the agreed upon items. Two months is long enough, he should resend (or send) a replacement box. Also, it's never acceptable to ignore someone you're currently in a trade with.

 

Your DNT list just got longer!

 

I don't pull the trigger that fast. Let's wait and see both sides of this story.

 

I can vouch to this for OP, not that he needs it with 100% trade reviews on 200+ trades. In the end if you trade enough adversity is bound to happen when shipping beer. Often what you do in those circumstances defines you as a good or bad trader. Curious to hear @TallGuyCM side. It seems he has been on the site within the past day.

I can personally say that I would feel horrible if I sent a box and it got lost or destroyed. I believe most on this site would feel the same and go to extreme efforts to make the situation right. Perhaps @TallGuyCM feels bad, but just didn't know how to rectify the situation? Were these cans hard to replace? It seems @merpunk1 is taking a polite approach here and looking to make things right. It seems this trade can still be salvaged to me...

 

Hey all. Wasn’t aware this thread had been created until a few kind souls DM’d me to give me a heads up.

The long story short is that yes, I’m not entirely sure what to do about the situation, but also that I did try and meet Mitchell in the middle and he insisted on (what I considered to be) ridiculous terms so we ended up at a standstill.

Here’s my logic - and please correct me if I’m way off-base - I think this community is great and am open to whatever is suggested. I did a trade with someone over Instagram a few months ago. He received his box right away, mine got lost in the mail for a few months. He did everything he could to amend the situation - phoned the post office constantly, filed online claims (both things I did to try and resolve the situation with Mitchell, which of course he never mentioned. Hours on hold with the USPS while at work until I finally got through, twice) - but never did I think he owed me anything just because he received my package and I didn’t receive his. We both spent the same $4$ on what we shipped, and since shipping beer is illegal after all, we’re both taking on an assumed risk at the end of the day. The package I sent him was worth about $100, and same for the one he sent me. Did I expect him to send me another $100 worth of beer? Heck no. I was bummed about it, but it happens.

Mitchell consistently claimed that I “screwed him out of 16 cans” when we were still discussing how best to resolve the situation, as if I intentionally had the package get lost in the mail. I understand he’s frustrated, but he’s also handled the situation extremely poorly and has lashed out in ways that I surely wouldn’t if I were in his shoes.

 

What has come of your filed claim. If nothing yet, is there an ETA to resolution?

 

You’re on the hook, it’s that simple. Either send another box to fulfill the trade as promised or work out something acceptable with OP.

 

We discussed a secondary trade and he agreed, but then he went on to further stipulate that he wouldn’t ship until he received his package first, and demanded that it be from the freshest batch of Monkish IPAs. It felt like a hostage situation, and was again unnecessarily hostile.

 

Not unreasonable, but you could learn a thing or two about diplomacy.