Kane Brewing (2020)

Prop day was 2 Prop, 1 #4, & the "mystery" BCBS(which was coconut).

It was lottery release for IP pick up in at GI Fulton St in Chicago with no proxies.

It feels like a super relevant comparison.

 

Yeah not disagreeing, just putting it out there in actual NJ pricing terms. But nonetheless I suppose it's all worth what someone will pay. I'm sure anniversary BCBS will go for a crazy price if anywhere sells it individually in NJ. More likely I guess they'll pull this "sets" thing to get rid of original and variants. But I respect that plenty of people can't/won't justify $20 plus for a pint from Kane. That's not cheap! Smart business, and much safer for everyone given Covid, but not a great option unless you've got money to burn.

 

It is definitely not cheap.

 

$88 for four ba stouts definitely isnt expensive.

 

More like $100 after fees and taxes and YES, it definitely is expensive to me. I’d like to live in your world, where $22-25 for a pint of beer is “definitely not expensive,” but alas, I do not.

 

When people use the term "expensive" without any other explanation on a big forum like this one it's safe to say that they mean "expensive [as it generally relates to that product, in that market, etc]."

Everyone already knows that people have different, subjective interpretations of "expensive" as something that fits into their own budget. There's no need to consistently remind people of this. Nobody knows your personal budget or preferences, and nobody is presuming to. Unless someone explicitly says "this beer is cheap and it must be cheap for everyone's budget" then I truly don't know why we would assume that this is what they mean.

Like I said, this strikes me as more of a miscommunication than something malicious (obviously), but yikes... we've been over this lol.

 

LOL at this. You think they're making beers for the fun of it?

Can anyone seriously explain what makes bourbon barrel aged beer inherently more expensive than any other beer? Other than purchasing the barrel, what added expense is there??

 

Storing the beer for elongated periods of time is also a factor.

 

I've heard this argument before and don't really understand how that adds to the "expense." I get that aging means that you need to lay out money for a product that you won't see a profit on right away, but I don't see how that increases the cost basis for the product overall. Especially not to the point where making the beer is somehow exponentially more expensive and borderline unprofitable at $22 per 16 ounces.

My point overall is that the argument that these beers are somehow more expensive because they were thrown in a barrel for a few months is disingenuous. If Kane wants to charge a premium because the beers are amazing, which they are, and highly coveted for that reason, that's fine by me.

 

I mean, when it comes down to it cost of these products is not at all exactly married to the cost of production. Demand plays a big factor. I'm not arguing that these are "borderline unprofitable" FYI... I'd be willing to guess that there's a pretty nice margin on these (I have no clue for sure, obviously).

 

What is the point of a discussion forum again?

 

I guess as a NJ BA person who has been visiting Kane, drinking Kane’s beers, ordering deliveries, etc. and who is interested in their releases as part of my local scene, I enjoy having conversations with my fellow BA people on this forum. Sometimes that involves pricing of releases. As a somewhat old school guy, I guess I’m amazed at what people find “cheap.” Can I technically afford to order this beer? Sure. I don’t mind debating whether or not a price is “reasonable” but we probably don’t need to insult each other while doing it. Myself included.

 

How dare you discuss your personal perspective on something? We’ll be having none of that!

Seriously though, I’m glad we’re having this discussion about $88 bottles and how they’re fairly priced. Now I can show this thread to my wife to justify why $100+ for a case of cans is, in fact, very reasonable and she should be quite happy with my reasonable beer purchases. Thanks guys!

 

Regardless of where you stand on the value of these bottles, the fact is Kane and many other Breweries were putting these same beers in 750ml bottles only a few years ago at the same price as the 500ml bottles are now selling for today. Kane at least mentions the size of the bottles in their IG ANTEAD announcement, some Breweries are not as forthcoming with that info which is intentionally deceptive IMO.

 

Good luck those interested!

 

Sounds like it sold out instantly. Guess proxies and 2/sets per person went well. Friend tried and couldn't get thru EVENTBRITE at noon so I'm sure there were many times more people trying to log in at noon than available.

 

think i got a set, i checked out and everything, got congratulated, but no followup email or tickets in my eventbrite... hmm.

i did it so fast i didn't even see the place to order a second set.

 

Presume you'd have to go thru the process twice? Yeah he said he got to try to put it in his cart and it said WAITING TO CHECK IF ANY TICKETS AVAILABLE. Never went anywhere after that for ten minutes, gave up.