Trade Value Thread (2020)

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by Michaelpro824, Jan 2, 2020.

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  1. Onerandombeer

    Onerandombeer Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2017 Illinois
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    Haha I hope not. But at the same time, I've already arranged a trade that is WAY in the other guys favor for these. But what the hell.
     
  2. Fermented-nate

    Fermented-nate Zealot (649) Sep 15, 2013 California
    Trader

    Would a 1792 Full Proof Single Barrel store pick pull any of the new Kane ANTEADs? Specifically the coconut cream pie + regular ANTEAD?
    Maybe too soon the tell....or maybe my bourbon doesnt have that much trade value (they almost never do!)
    Thanks in advance for any insight
     
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  3. wtg29

    wtg29 Aspirant (213) Aug 28, 2020 North Carolina
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    Got a BBT4 coming my way soon, either going to drink it or try to trade for a Handjee. Not picky on the vintage. Is that 1:1 or will I be able to get a plus? If so how big a plus? Not a whole lot else I'm ISO these days, maybe BAIGCCS but that seems like a tall ask without something else on my end?

    Or am I way off base and going to need a plus just to get a Handjee?
     
  4. Yabu

    Yabu Savant (1,150) Feb 4, 2015 California
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    BBT trades higher than handjee (with a large + on their side)
     
  5. Bhubbard34

    Bhubbard34 Pooh-Bah (2,585) Mar 4, 2016 Pennsylvania
    Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Agree and You could also easily get BAIGCCS with BBT4
     
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  6. Bhubbard34

    Bhubbard34 Pooh-Bah (2,585) Mar 4, 2016 Pennsylvania
    Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    If I had an Elmer and was trading it....I’d want handjee or KBBS. KBBS might be a stretch...but so is trading Elmer for a stout

    Just my opinion
     
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  7. eawolff99

    eawolff99 Pooh-Bah (2,422) May 10, 2010 Minnesota
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    Thank you. My local guy just put one aside for me!
     
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  8. SG_H44

    SG_H44 Crusader (430) Mar 15, 2020 South Korea
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    Got sets of 20’ ANTEAD. How many sets would be appropriate for 1 bottle of Bokke?
     
  9. sjguglielmo

    sjguglielmo Zealot (522) Aug 26, 2009 Minnesota
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    Something like CBC Maman (or Maman or Assassin with a smallish plus). You'd need a real solid plus to trade for stuff like KBBS, Gabe, BBT
     
  10. Affinity

    Affinity Savant (1,134) Nov 24, 2018 Missouri
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    I have seen you post in the trade value thread a couple times asking for values, then post a trade that is skewed compared to the advice you get. You deleted your initial trade value question, but it still appears because someone quoted it. And since you locked your trade offer I assume you know what you are doing. Most people who post in this forum use the advice they receive. Just curious, why post asking others what they think about values and then do something completely different?
     
  11. eawolff99

    eawolff99 Pooh-Bah (2,422) May 10, 2010 Minnesota
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    I posted after a response that said KBBS or Handjee - I added a Yama 12 to go for SR-71. With the advice to go for it. There is this like cancel culture in beer trading lately w the thread shitting. The latest post re: Maman just came in after I posted in ISO. So I pulled right after. This is getting ridiculous with the constant bombarding on trades. If someone has an SR-71 and they want an ETL + Y12, then why do you care if I get that done or not? It’s mind boggling why people weigh in so negatively on people’s trades. Let it silently die if I’m off.
     
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  12. Affinity

    Affinity Savant (1,134) Nov 24, 2018 Missouri
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    I would say that majority of people that have posted in the Limited forums have taken a shot at a big bottle. Nothing wrong with that (to a certain extent). The question is regarding seeking advice in the trade value thread, then doing something that goes against that. ETL + Yama 12 are nowhere near SR-71, let alone Ann. I would say that feedback regarding values is fair if you seek advice in the trade value thread....that is the point of this forum.
     
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  13. eawolff99

    eawolff99 Pooh-Bah (2,422) May 10, 2010 Minnesota
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    The feedback I received in this forum was Handjee or KBBS for ETL. I asked about adding Yama 12 and feedback was go for it. So I did. Then someone came in (after I posted) and said Maman. So what do you want me to say / do? Someone could come in after and say shelf IPAs. Does the Maman guy trump the Handjee guy? I don’t know. But I had already posted - and candidly I bet I’m pretty close. But again - why do you care this much? I follow your posts and like what you write - but what’s your objective with this? If I get that trade done or not - are you the clearing house? Someone said Handjee someone said Maman. So you’re the master of this and I need to pull my Limited post bc someone came in after I posted and said Maman????
     
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  14. Ckgibu

    Ckgibu Zealot (548) Jun 3, 2020 Hawaii
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    What’s mind boggling to me is when someone takes any tiny fraction of honest constructive feedback and labels it as “threadshitting” just because it doesn’t agree with his own opinion.
     
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  15. Affinity

    Affinity Savant (1,134) Nov 24, 2018 Missouri
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    No objective. It can be confusing sometimes gauging differing opinions on these bottles. However, the difference between maman - handjee - kbbs - sr71 - Ann is vast. That ranges from 1.25 vru up to 8-9 vru. Ultimately this is a community of people with like minded interests. The advice in this forum can help close a trade. Nothing wrong with shooting your shot. Good luck.
     
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  16. eawolff99

    eawolff99 Pooh-Bah (2,422) May 10, 2010 Minnesota
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    What is the honest constructive feedback? I asked in this thread what the value is of ETL - the first response was Handjee or KBBS ... I asked if I added Yama12 if I could land an SR-71 ... and feedback was go for it. So I posted an ISO for it (and several alternatives if I was off). I did literally what this thread is for. Then after I posted someone said Maman. Who are you guys? This is literally your life. You care about my trade this much?? Seriously?!?
     
  17. astrodanzz

    astrodanzz Aspirant (236) Oct 14, 2020 New York
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    What‘s the ANTEADs sets value right now?
     
  18. Ckgibu

    Ckgibu Zealot (548) Jun 3, 2020 Hawaii
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    What I was referring to was when I responded to one of your earlier ISO posts when you were offering Yama 12 for various high valued BA stouts. At that time, I gave my feedback that Yama 12 alone was not worth those stouts, and that the Kurayoshi 12 that you were also offering did not aid in your attempts to land one of those BA stouts. Maybe being a simple post, it came across as tone deaf, but there was no malintent there. No mocking meme/gif, no personal attack on you, nothing. You then proceeded to accuse me of "threadshitting" on your post, saying "I was what's wrong w/ the craft beer/whisky trading game," and insulting my knowledge because "I was from Hawaii," just because I gave honest feedback of the valuation of those whiskies that perhaps didn't agree with your valuation.

    So here it is. You're right, I don't care about your trade. I do care about the fact that you ask for advice, and the advice you agree with (even when the advice is incorrect), you are pleasant, but if it is advice that you don't agree with, you proclaim that we are devaluing your beer/whisky and that we're "threadshitting." Honest feedback of the value of your whiskies? Yama 12 is not going for any more than 150-200 (and 200 is an absolute stretch, only to someone who is really seeking out good Japanese whisky). ETL is slightly less, 150-175. Kurayoshi, no self-respecting whisky person out there in any group (knowing that it is NOT real japanese whisky) would pay more than MSRP, 90. Handjee, prob 300ish. KBBS, even the most recent yet to be released batch, 500-600. If you don't believe me, go look at various groups/boards on FB, here, and find out the harsh truth for yourself.
     
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  19. eawolff99

    eawolff99 Pooh-Bah (2,422) May 10, 2010 Minnesota
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    You’re a troll bro - rationalize your approach however you want. You can send me a private note instead of hiding behind the anonymity of a keyboard and writing paragraphs of text on all of my posts. You literally have no idea what you’re talking about here - I asked the community for feedback, I received feedback. I posted an ISO. If it gets done it gets done, if not, that’s fine. After I posted someone came in and said that ETL was worth Maman. I didn’t pull my post down - and you can’t stop piling on. Again, who are you? And why do you care this much? Get a life and leave me alone.
     
  20. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Honestly, who's surprised that someone throwing around the term Cancel Culture so flippantly is also throwing around Threadshitting after being provided with the precise advice he asked for?
     
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