Trading Updates (December 2020)

If I am understanding correctly seems like @Todd would like to go back to only beer trades. I think that would be a downfall to the site and would cut down on the traffic.

IMO i think the way it is setup now is perfect. Keeps all trading in one thread. Some threads already can be a dozy to try and find...

 

In total agreement. A low bar that hopefully reduces abuse.

 

Appreciate you taking the community’s feedback into consideration before implementing changes. Sounds good.

Will ISO:FT include the same sub-categories of Limited, $4$, Locals, Proxy/Trustee Requests, or will the set up for ISO:FT look different?

 

I guess you got the numbers, but it seems like 40% or more post involve some kind of whiskey in the FT or ISO lists...

In any case I hope all changes are good and brings more people into trading..

 

Thanks.

 

If you look there’s lots of guys here strictly to trade. Low posts, high trades, never seen participating in talk forums. It’s a beer site that meets the wants. I also noticed very few locked and closed, that just makes me wonder if it’s about winning and auctioning off whales. But again we’re big boys we can ignore it.

 

Now make traders want to make reasonable trades again!

 

Thank you again @Todd for allowing us a chance to discuss this with you, before making this a Society Members-only perk. While I may not be too keen on not being able to delete troll or hostile replies or lock posts that devolve into fights, I'm willing to make that comprise to keep trading free and open. Perhaps mods can be a little open-minded and flexible about requests to clean up posts if they get particularly ugly, as some often do ("Hey this offer sucks" - "no you suck" - "no, YOU suck" - "well you AND your beer suck bro" - "I think his offer is good.." - "WELL YOU SUCK TOO!" - that kinda thing) but for now, this is a much more palatable change than the perk business, and one I'll gladly accommodate.

You could have just not listened to any of us, and said, "Screw you guys, my site, my rules", but you didn't, and you allowed for a democratic negotiation, even when some were overly hostile towards you, and I greatly respect and appreciate that. That kind of connection to the community is what separates this from most other massive sites, and I hope that never goes away.

I think requiring people to be active for 30 days and accrue some karma prior to trading is a very good step in the right direction, and will hopefully cut down on some of the sketchy fly-by-night traders. I'm sure I speak for others in saying that I'll definitely remain diligent, and report any alarming or suspicious attempts, such as people trying to sell their wares here.

Again, thank you for allowing us to have a voice here, and for listening to that voice. I think you've gone a great service to the community by doing so, and I, as well as many others, thank you for that.

Merry Christmas, Todd.

 

These are good ideas for the most part. However, trading is largely done behind the scenes and trading for non-beer is much more prevalent than it might appear. I, personally, would like to see it remain. I recognize that it's not being impacted by this change but am imploring that it remain unchanged indefinitely.

 

I think it’s a maybe 40% of the limited but in $4$ and locals is very rare. You have to think a majority of the trades that occur at probably more locals and $4$ as the “big item tickets seem to move slower.

 

Is there a legal reason for removing non beer trades (that is unique separate from beer)? I don't actively trade non-beer but curious as to the reason to remove it. Also curious what amount of trade activity is currently from members that wouldn't meet the requirements.