IPA Designations?

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  1. Bungletronics

    Bungletronics Devotee (387) Jan 5, 2009 California

    I haven't been as active in the beer thing as I used to be and it seems I'm either out of touch or very confused. I hate that I even give a shit but my OCD gets the better of me as well as my old man-ism. See me shaking my fist at the clouds?

    Are beers designated "East Coast IPA's" now exclusively/predonimnately the hazy style or "NEIPA" style and they've become so commonplace now they're just "East Coast"? Or opposite to "West Coast" IPA?

    The reason I ask is that I saw a brewery advertising a "clear east coast IPA." But to me (aka back in my day) east coast IPA's are already "clear" aka not hazy such as DFH 60/90, Hop Devil, Smuttynose, etc... So, has the designation evolved? Or have So Cal breweries decided to do whatever they can to make something a "special" IPA rather than expand their offerings to things disgruntled non-IPA drinkers may want to drink? I use a lot of air quotes, sorry.

    edit: oh look, I made my first post in a while at what is 12 years since registering here almost to the day. That's some kind of cosmic force.
     
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  2. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    I think I’ve only ever used / heard of East Coast IPA in the way you described above. i.e. barely see it mentioned anymore. So sounds like your SoCal brewery is making new shit up / means clear NEIPA.
     
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  3. AWA

    AWA Savant (1,195) Jul 22, 2014 California

    I grew up in Socal. I'm confident that the brewery is doing anything it can to draw attention to itself, as is indicative of the region. Not talking shit about Socal. I seriously fucking miss Malibu in the 70's. But let's face it, more than anywhere else Socal is about drawing attention to yourself.
     
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  4. Bungletronics

    Bungletronics Devotee (387) Jan 5, 2009 California

    I work in Malibu. Parts of it are still enjoyable.
     
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  5. AWA

    AWA Savant (1,195) Jul 22, 2014 California

    I know. I still go back about once a year. I miss Neptune's Net. But damn it's gotten pretentious.
     
  6. moodenba

    moodenba Pooh-Bah (2,502) Feb 2, 2015 New York
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    I'm old too. I think your OCD is leading you astray. Trying to figure out what kind of beer is inside a bottle or can labeled IPA is fruitless (or maybe too much fruit character). I recently had a pale ale that I had previously liked, and discovered that the brewers were putting a completely different product, like a cloudy IPA, in the can. Try to find a good recent review if you are interested.
     
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  7. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    off topic but is your profile pic you riding? Avid mountain biker myself.
     
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  8. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    I’ll go in a different direction than others here and state that the above is true to a certain extent. It seems like the use of plain “East Coast” to exclusively refer to IPAs like 60 Minute has become less popular. In recent years, people saying “East Coast” are sometimes using it to refer to “NEIPAs” (as if there was no prior meaning). Others might be using the term very broadly. It’s become impossible to know how it’s supposed to be taken w/o diving into context.

    There could also be some truth to your theory about that California brewery, but similar to my point above, it’s hard to guess their intention with such little info.
     
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  9. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    Dude I wish! It’s Amaury Pierron (with Brendan Fairclough behind), from a Dog’s Life 3 filmed in SA.

     
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  10. papposilenus

    papposilenus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,232) Jun 21, 2014 New Hampshire
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    As someone who has hurt himself getting up off of chairs, I had to turn that off before the one minute mark.
     
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  11. JrGtr

    JrGtr Pooh-Bah (1,775) Apr 13, 2006 Massachusetts
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    IIRC, not that long ago, the designations for IPAs were just, "east coast" or "west coast." East coast were more malt forward, like Harpoon, DFH 60min, and so on and so forth. West coast were more hop forward, SN, Stone, etc.
    Since then, there's been a million "new" variations, like the NEIPA (hazy, low bitterness, juicy hop profile) Brut - super dry, and so on and so forth.
     
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  12. MaltyFlannel

    MaltyFlannel Aspirant (239) Oct 30, 2020 Iowa

    Not related to OP's question, but this makes me think about the "hazy west coast IPA's" I'm seeing pop up now. Seems like an oxymoron. But I'm not gonna lie, I buy them everytime...
     
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  13. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    How many brands have you seen (so far)?

    Do they actually have the words "West Coast Hazy IPA" on the packaging?

    Cheers!
     
  14. Bungletronics

    Bungletronics Devotee (387) Jan 5, 2009 California

    I think at the end of the day there are just too many IPA’s in general and in recent times they’ve gone a bit... “bro”. Especially out here where every start up brewery has no less than 7 hop forward beers on tap at any given time. Accompanied by light lagers. I get it, they’re catering to the demographics here but honestly most of these people don’t realize that they’d like other styles because they’ve never been offered them.

    The brewery I question in my OP about having a clear east coast ipa, for example, offers around 5 ipa/hazy/pale, 2 lagers, and a stout. That’s it. I’m honestly surprised they have a stout.
     
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  15. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    Two lagers is the bigger surprise. Surely they have a kettle sour with captain crunch and blueberries? If not they're missing a trick.
     
  16. Bungletronics

    Bungletronics Devotee (387) Jan 5, 2009 California

    Nope. I don't think anyone in a 30 mile radius even offers any kind of sour, cereal kettle or otherwise. Well, not since the Dudes closed up shop.
     
  17. 12ArmedGoon

    12ArmedGoon Devotee (316) Sep 28, 2016 Kansas
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    You know, the first couple times a brewed beer I could've called them "hazy" but that's just because I didn't know how to get them to clear up. They were Pliny clones too, so they definitely would've fit that description..
     
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  18. MaltyFlannel

    MaltyFlannel Aspirant (239) Oct 30, 2020 Iowa

    at least 3 or 4 between local breweries and Tavour listings
     
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  19. MaltyFlannel

    MaltyFlannel Aspirant (239) Oct 30, 2020 Iowa

    I live in Iowa and someone in my local beer group was complaining yesterday about all our local stores carrying 6 Toppling Goliath IPA's and 1 TG lager but nothing else. Asked him if he realized that this is all TG distributes. They distribute one rotational stout and one rotational sour, and every other stout release is taproom lottery.
     
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  20. MaltyFlannel

    MaltyFlannel Aspirant (239) Oct 30, 2020 Iowa

    And on that same note, just in contrast, there is exactly 1 brewery in Iowa that every year brews and distributes Kolsch's, bocks, scotch ales, barleywines, Belgian's, etc and actually fit their IPA production in rather proportionately with their production of other beer styles. It's incredibly refreshing, but they're a unicorn in that regard.
     
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