What’s the Difference? Share your Side-by-Side (2021)

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  1. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    I always thoroughly enjoy everyone’s side by side tastings, I enjoy doing them too. I mentioned this idea in a NBW thread a ways back and @cjgiant, who tends to post lots of side by sides, commented on it and mentioned he may start a thread. We talked with each other and added some discussion we finally decided to give it a shot. Hopefully there's some interest, but this is meant to be just a thread to throw out your side-by-sides.

    What's a side-by-side?
    Well, simply, it's having two (or more) beers together and comparing/contrasting them. It can take any reasoning: beers you think are similar, verticals (differences in aging and makeup), brewery-produced variants, just because, hype vs shelf beef, fresh vs older, import vs local, etc. blind or not blind, all welcome.

    What we thought would be good to include?
    • the name and brewer of both beers (makes this thread more searchable)
    • why did you decide to try these two beers together?
    • what did you find out, i.e. What's the Difference?
    • if you had expectations or guesses were you surprised by the results?

    That's really about it. You can provide a near play-by-play of each sip, or just give the executive summary. Pictures are always nice, but a thousand words is a valid substitute, I hear (kidding).

    @tasterschoice62 thanks for the gbot heady one, that prompted this post as well as @StonedRaider with the stone vs wookie jack one, saw both of yours recently as well and it reminded me of this thread idea.

    Anyhow, hopefully there is some interest in this, if not oh well, figured it was worth a shot. The worst that happens it gets buried after our first few posts, just wanted to see if it was worth a try. I will post one shortly...
     
  2. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    The idea for this one stemmed from Jever continuing to get mentioned in the Weihenstephaner Helles thread. Freshness came up a lot as it tends to with imports, so I decided to take a 6 month old Jever (7.20.20 bottling) and compare it to a fresh favorite local pils of my double nickel pilsner (11.10.20 canned), german, so it was a good comparison. The goal here was to see just how well an import holds up when compared to a great local fresh example, both same price, 11 a six pack. I went blind cause I thought the pours would give it away I was wrong, it may have messed me up more cause I thought Jever was lighter, nope...picture was taken after notes, notes were blind black glass.

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    Aroma

    After smelling both my initial reaction was the left was a little muted. But noticeable difference was that the right had a sweet citrusy, little floral, grassy thing going on while the left was mostly grassy and spicy.

    Taste
    Left was prominent grass and spice mostly where as the right had a crackerness to it along with lemon like citrus note to it, grassy too but way less so.

    Mouthfeel
    Left was super clean and dry with a nice bitterness to it, the right side was a little sweeter, less bitter (or less noticeable cause of sweetness) still clean and dry but it definitely lingered longer than the other one.

    I was fairly certain by mouthfeel which was which, simply because the mouthfeel of the left was just begging for sip after sip, a trait i love of the beer on the left, the bitterness also helped.

    Appearance
    After the fact I poured to compare they almost look and pour identical though Jever was surprisingly a bit darker, picture is very accurate. I would've guessed it would've been lighter, nope.

    No winners or losers here, both beers are amazing and good in their own right. I was surprised though that still at 6 months Jever was still noticeably cleaner and crisper than its counterpoint. No surprise that the fresher one had a lot more aroma. But it was very surprising how crisp, clean and drinkable a 6 month old German beer was. Both great beers and I’m happy I can have the best of both worlds.
     
  3. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Great idea and good job kicking things off! I really hope this thread takes off.
     
  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    FWIW I am not at all surprised at what you posted here. Jever, even when fresher than 6 months, does not have prominent hop aroma. But even with some time it still is very crisp and clean. The feature of Jever, which I have discussed in many posts, is that it is bone dry.

    I have had Double Nickle several times, and I have enjoyed it every time, but not exactly a favorite for my palate. But we all have our own unique palates.

    As I am sure you recall I have posted a lot of side by side tastings in the NBS/NBW threads. A fairly recent post was concerning German Pilsners:

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    https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/new-beer-weekend-21.651977/#post-7116379

    Cheers!
     
  5. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    Your frequent side by sides are always enjoyable to read. I looked for that Bavarian pils too, never found it sadly.

    Thanks, hopefully some good discussion comes of it.
     
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  6. cjgiant

    cjgiant Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,584) Jul 13, 2013 District of Columbia
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    No, there was no coordination at all. I just happened to have a side-by-side all lined up for tonight.... :smirk:

    Actually, I did mention this a week and a half ago, so let's get at it...
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    So for those who didn't want to click the link, I hadn't had Great Divide Hibernation in a while, and have been quite enjoying it. It's bitterness reminded me more of an American barley wine than the Old Ale, and when American barley wines come up, so does the comparison beer: Sierra Nevada Bigfoot.

    So, I don't expect them to be that similar, but I'm curious on what is similar given my thoughts that night oh so many days ago.

    So, Hibernation is darker and therefore less clear, but also has a better head (granted, the Bigfoot is 5-6 years old, but it needs some time to mellow, no?)

    There's more chocolate in the Hibernation nose, especially to the hops in Bigfoot. The Bigfoot is actually more sweet smelling, despite the hops I know are coming.

    Taste brings things closer together - though Hibernation bitterness seems to be a combination of the more roasted malt and hops, where Bigfoot seems all hop-driven.

    Overall, the sweet (and more barleywine-esque, to me) note from Bogfoot's nose is drowned by the bittering hops in the taste. Given the comparison, Hibernation seems more a bareleywine/stout hybrid, so old ale probably does fit, given the style seems to be more rooted in production than outcome.

    So, I thought Hibernation leaned more ABW, and found out that maybe it doesn't so much. I am enjoying both on their own, regardless (and though I've been iffy on Bigfoot in the past, I'm enjoying it a tad more tonight).

    Cheers, all! I hope you guys and gals consider using this thread for fun and exploration, even if you are more succinct than my wordy ass :slight_smile:


    Bonus round: I gave the GF the beers blind, and she called them correctly. She liked Hibernation as Bigfoot was "less drinkable" and seemingly higher in ABV (after looking up, she was right, but she thought there'd be larger than a 1% difference). As such, she liked Hibernation better as "more drinkable" to her.
     
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  7. cjgiant

    cjgiant Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,584) Jul 13, 2013 District of Columbia
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    Nicely done. I love the dark glasses, I might need to find something like that for my own lunacy of blind tasting. :grinning:
     
  8. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    I love them, it’s pretty shocking how much we taste with our eyes. I’ve been surprised many times cause of these glasses.
     
  9. ovaltine

    ovaltine Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,787) Apr 6, 2010 Indiana
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    Okay, you just added some complexity to my NBW choices for this weekend. I gotta noodle on this a bit.

    PS: this is a FANTASTIC idea for a thread. Well done.
     
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  10. ovaltine

    ovaltine Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,787) Apr 6, 2010 Indiana
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    You are the king of the side-by-side, Jack. I love when you do these in NBS/NBW, and I really appreciate that a lot of the time, in my recollection, you choose a couple of lagers/pilsners. You are an OG beer nerd of the highest magnitude, IMHO.
     
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  11. ovaltine

    ovaltine Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,787) Apr 6, 2010 Indiana
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    Okay, this thread is showing PHENOMENAL potential - this is an inspired selection of beers.

    Wow. Just wow.
     
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  12. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    Thank you! I was hesitant to post so close to NBW but it was Friday and I had those two in the fridge it felt right. Could always save side by side for midweek to not affect NBW. :beers:
     
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  13. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Spoiler alert: In a week (or two) I will be discussing a side-by-side of two Saisons. One will be a new to me commercial beer and the other will be my latest homebrewed Saison.

    Cheers!
     
  14. o29

    o29 Maven (1,275) Sep 29, 2020 Texas
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    This is an awesome idea for a thread thread!

    Recently I was inspired to try a SN Celebration/Torpedo blind side-by-side this past year after reading on some thread here that another poster found than more similar than expected. I also found them similar, though I was still able to correctly guess which was which, though with a 50/50 shot that's not saying that much.

    It was definitely an enjoyable exercise though that I wish I had shared here, so I look forward to conducting more "experiments" and contributing to this post in the future!

    I got surprisingly good head formation from a 2011 Bigfoot that I opened a week or so ago, so that's interesting that yours appears to have poured with significantly less.

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  15. cjgiant

    cjgiant Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,584) Jul 13, 2013 District of Columbia
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    I always find rating look can be weird on a single beer - I've totally had different results within a six pack, which could very easily point to me/my glasses more than the beer.

    That said, I feel that what I poured had no chance of looking like yours. I await your next chance to post in this thread. Cheers!
     
  16. Billet

    Billet Pundit (794) Dec 17, 2013 Michigan

    I just did a side by side comparison yesterday with Sam Adams Boston Lager and Alaskan Amber. It started as a blind taste test, but I was easily able to identify each one.

    The Boston Lager had a lighter malt backbone and was decidedly more hop forward. The Alaskan Amber had a stronger malt flavor without being overly sweet. The Amber had an interesting flavor that I could not identify where the Lager had a more traditional flavor. Both beers had a very clean flavor, not a single note out of place.

    I considered them to be roughly equal in quality, both excellent, but the styles were enough different that I could not pick a true winner of this round.
     
  17. GOBLIN

    GOBLIN Pooh-Bah (2,676) Mar 3, 2013 Ohio
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    Great idea !!!
     
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  18. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    That’s a good one I’ve actually never had Alaskan Amber, they don’t make it out here.

    Amber lager vs ale is a good idea, I recently did a similar lager vs ale with a 4% black lager and 4% stout both from the same brewery. I did blind as well and I had the same result as you “the styles were different enough.” Also agree that both were great beers that I enjoyed a lot. Thanks for sharing.
     
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  19. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Was there a feature(s) that distinguished one from the other?

    A couple of years ago I had a Czech Dark Lager from a small, local brewery and while I enjoyed drinking it I could not shake the 'feeling' that I was drinking a Stout/Porter. I will relate later what the 'it' factor was for me here.

    Cheers!
     
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  20. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    Yes @JackHorzempa the stout had noticeably more hop presence, as well as a lasting finish. They both share a similar roast profile but what was interesting about the side by side was how much the hops came out in the stout. When drank alone it was not as noticeable but next to the lager it very much stood out.
     
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