Sierra Nevada Pale Bock Returns?

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  1. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Wasn't that stopped a while back? I know it still lingers on some labels, but I don't think it's a requirement anymore. I think Texas was the last state to have the "law," and they've stopped.
    @jesskidden
     
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  2. ilikebeer03

    ilikebeer03 Pooh-Bah (2,616) Oct 17, 2012 Texas
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    Sierra Nevada very rarely misses. I'll be giving this a shot if I see it.
     
  3. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    No, the early 2000s. Unless I'm misunderstanding the link in your previous post of the BA listing, it says the photo was uploaded 2003 where the label says Malt Liquor.

    I really don't think that was on the earlier labels; it would have stood out to me even then.
     
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  4. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    You're right -- I hadn't noticed that before.
    I sure don't remember it from back then, I wonder if it connects to @EmperorBatman 's observation of the old labeling law and SN was having some fun?

    Once again, @SierraTerence
     
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  5. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Yeah, a couple of states had such laws (but not the Feds); CA and TX, being huge markets were probably the reasons some brewers and importers chose that labeling language rather than the more costly choice of separate labels for different states.
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    Imports over 5% ABV (4% ABW) tended to use "malt liquor" but, I guess because of the negative reputation that that term has acquired, US brewers used the infamous "Ale in Texas" (:thinking_face: huh?) for their lager beers over 5%.
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    Previous to the early 1970s, North Carolina (and, according to some sources, Virginia) had labeling laws that prohibited the use of the term "malt liquor". I guess because they defined "liquor" as only distilled spirits? So the major malt liquor brands were labeled by the kinda redundant terminology shown below.
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    As I understand it, technically still on the books, but a judge's ruling currently has the rule in limbo?
     
  6. cg123

    cg123 Zealot (548) Feb 27, 2012 Ohio
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    The only malt liquor I drink I a Anaconda Malt Liquor. It gives you Oooooooo!
     
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  7. celtsfan33

    celtsfan33 Pooh-Bah (1,667) Nov 12, 2019 Massachusetts
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    sorry for the two posts, but damn I really liked having Celebration in bottles in the fall
     
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  8. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    I had more than one European supplier that complained that "America is like 50 countries". So I guess they finally put together a formula taking into account state by state variations and peculiarities and came up with a uniform all-inclusive label design.
     
  9. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Older label - © 1989.

    M. Jackson, Simon & Shuster Pocket Guide to Beer 3rd. ed. ©1991:
     
  10. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Wow, how about that, it's been there all the while. I stand corrected.
     
  11. Jaycase

    Jaycase Grand Pooh-Bah (3,858) Jan 13, 2007 Illinois
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    A springtime seasonal in <gasp> April, May and early June. Imagine that! Here I thought spring started in January :wink:. Well, if these months hold true perhaps it's a possibility this beer sees 2021 after all.
     
  12. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    And like you, it never registered in my head -- Agh! I'm drinking a Malt Liquor?! :wink:
     
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  13. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    They were using the Black's Law Dictionary definition, from the 19th century:
     
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  14. deanzaZZR

    deanzaZZR Maven (1,347) Jan 8, 2015 California

    Lovely label. Gimmie.
     
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  15. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    You think Billy D. Williams ever read that definition? :wink:
     
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  16. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Well, he was just paraphrasing, he obviously meant:
    "... it works every time (as the correct term, whether you're talking about lager beer, ale, porter or stout)."
     
  17. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    That piece of the past indicates to me that Black's Law Dictionary was once a most useful lawyerly tool...Good information never gets old, now that JK takes us time-traveling....
     
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  18. Tilley4

    Tilley4 Pooh-Bah (2,811) Nov 13, 2007 Tennessee
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    Will try I guess...personally, I miss Glissade and wish they would at least bring it back in a mixed pack...if I had my way, the Vienna Lager would be their spring seasonal.. I would buy that beer by the pallet...
     
  19. deanzaZZR

    deanzaZZR Maven (1,347) Jan 8, 2015 California

    One could even say that Sierra Nevada is lager deficient. WTF SN?
     
  20. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    I should add that I’m disappointed that this beer is going to be sold in 16oz cans. If I’m right about this being the 2022 spring seasonal, then I’ll assume that this might be the standard for seasonals going forward. I could be totally wrong of course.
     
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