Firestone Walker introduces Double Mind Haze

Mind Haze was a decent enough beer when fresh, problem here is just that. If it’s fresh it’s a buy for me, imo they just make great beers in any style. Get it to me fresh and don’t introduce it here “new” and it’s 3 months old already. Not a clue where the chains broke, from Ca to the local distributor, then go retail. I can’t think of a beer they make that if it’s fresh isn’t just purely outstanding.

 

So Firestone Walker is 'doubling down' on Mind Haze while at the same time discontinuing Pivo Pils. An indication of today's craft beer scene?

Cheers!

 

Oh great...another hazy IPA.

 

Wasn't this already out? It's hard keeping track of all "Hazy" or "Haze" beers

 

I guess they brew what sells but wish they would bring back original Union Jack, Gen-1, Double Jack (in 4/6 packs) and Wooky Jack.

Also, Sabro hops and Oats, no thank you. Nor do I want a 'creamy mouthfeel' in my IPAs.

 

I saw it here at least 2-3 weeks ago.

 

So, I take it the Union Jack beers available for sale today is 'different' from something you characterize as "original". Was there a recipe change? If so, do you have a link or reference which discusses what change Firestone Walker has made here?

Cheers!

 

I’m lucky enough to get my hands on Tonewoods Brewers Cut which is a dry hopped Pilsner but pivo pils going away is indeed sad

 

So, what do you think of this brand? Is it a 'worthy' purchase?

Cheers!

P.S. Related to Pivo Pils: it has been a very long time since I have purchased Pivo Pils since that beer is typically old on my local beer retailers' shelves. I would have purchased it more frequently if I could have found it fresh. In another thread a brewer from Firestone Walker stated they discontinued this brand since sales were poor. Well, if the brewery is incapable of maintaining fresh product on retailers' shelves there will indeed be sales impacts.

 

I really enjoy Tonewood. They do a lot of ipas but do Dunkel and a “foederbier” as well. Shwarzbier too. The dry hopped Pilsner....I’ve heard some say it tastes like nothing, but it tastes good it’s light but there’s enough there

 

I'd buy fresh Pivo 9 times out of 10 over an IPA if I could find it fresh. Unfortunately though the only Pivo that I can find anywhere near me is dated nearly a year old.

 

Sounds all too familiar with other one of my favorite breweries Sierra Nevada. Hazy little thing became their top seller so they brewed a double version of it while dropping their awesome lagers like summerfest.

I am sure it will be good and I’ll buy it. FW is usually fresh in my area and their price point rocks. I rarely purchase $20 4 packs of ipa so when I feel like a hazy dipa this will probably scratch that itch.

just wish we could have both. Great lagers and ipas fresh at a reasonable price point.

 

Maybe you should buy them up?

Since Pivo is no longer a year-round production beer these might be collector items!?!

Cheers!

 

Great example of the pathetic state of craft beer today. Pivo is a 1000X better than the best hazy beer ever made.

 

I agree 110% here with the caveat if you can (could) find it fresh; which I could not for over a couple of years.

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When hazy beer is outselling Pivo by 1000%, can one blame FW for discontinuing it across their national footprint? As much as I would want them to continue selling Pivo, I cannot blame them from a financial perspective as haze is what is selling these days. They need to make money to stay in business. My hope is DtC sales pick up nationally with the easing of state laws (one's gotta hope ) and I can at some point in the future order it directly from FW.

 

You guys do realize breweries this big make decisions on what beer to make and what not to make base on data right? These decisions are 95% data driven. They will literally sell so much more of this beer than Pivo it’s not even funny. And it’ll probably take 7-10 days less time to make it. Might be more expensive due to the dry hopping load (although 5#/bbl isn’t even that high in this day and age) but time in tank is probably even more important.

Beer sounded good until I saw the word Sabro. I hope to never drink another beer with Sabro in it ever again!

Not long ago I was able to find 3 week old Pivo. It was fantastic. Not to rub it in or anything...

 

Personally I found that beer to be meh. Really surprised it became such a hit for them.

 

Yeah, I’ll dankful over it every time