Growing Hops 2021

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  1. boddhitree

    boddhitree Pooh-Bah (1,839) Apr 13, 2008 Germany
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    New growing year, new thread.
     
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    boddhitree Pooh-Bah (1,839) Apr 13, 2008 Germany
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    I was rereading the thread about growing hops for last year and thought I'd begin one for this year with a pic and some questions from those who've more experience since this is only the 2nd year for me.
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    I bought baby plants last summer and they grew up to about 10 feet high before the first cold wave killed off the bines. We had some extended cold snaps of under -14C (about 5F, I think) for nights, and because they're in pots, I was worried the roots froze and died. Feeling relieved that the spouts popped up 2 weeks ago was an understatement. We've had another week of nights below freezing, so I brought the plants inside. Starting the end of March, we should have sustained,milder weather with lows only @ +5c, so they can retake their positions on the balcony.
    I was reading in last year's posts that some said they cut back first spouts, either due to cold weather or to limit growth too early in the growing year. I'm afraid they'll be too big by next week, for they're doubling in height almost every two days, before it's warm enough to remain outside. (I also saw the post of a link where one guy ate his hop sprouts, so I tried one... I can report nothing special that made me want to try another.). What do you think I should do?
     
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    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    I also tryed hop sprouts, no thanks, not for me.

    Usually, I cut back the first growth early and in Vt, that's sometime in late April then select 2-3 shoots to train, but, I grow in the ground, not in pots.
     
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    riptorn Pooh-Bah (1,776) Apr 26, 2018 Georgia
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    Correct me if wrong, but I'm guessing you cut all new growth back and then pick the healthiest from the re-emergent growth.
    How tall do you typically let them get before the first cut back?
    Same question for when you thin them out to the best 2 - 3 shoots?

    I wasn't sure when to thin them out last year, so I started training the best three when they began falling from their own weight and cut the rest down. Shoots continued sprouting for what might have been weeks, and I cut them as they got about 3" - 4" tall.

    Late April....would that be around the last average frost date for your area?
     
  5. boddhitree

    boddhitree Pooh-Bah (1,839) Apr 13, 2008 Germany
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    Yep, they doubled in size over 24 hours. I'm actually standing a few feet farther away to take the 2nd pic.
    As you suggested, GormBrewhouse, this morning I trimmed the sprouts back to an inch from the soil. They really seem to love being indoors with 22C temps. I guess I'll keep trimming until the fear of another frost is over, which should be in 2 weeks, at which point they'll go outside and fend for themselves.
     
  6. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    last frost is around the 15-20 of may
    usually around mid april give or take a couple weeks due to either extended cold or a super early thaw and hot temps, i use my heavy duty brush cutter with plastic blades to cut down any dead vegitation and also am cutting any sprouts coming up usually 2-5 inchs tall.

    after that , i pick 2 or 3 of the most agressive shoots, usually around mid to late may, and cut the rest back to ground level. usually if i have time, Ill continue cutting every 2 weeks or so with the brush cutter.

    yep i know, alot of usuallys but with multipal buiz to look after, its anything but hard and fast schedual.
     
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  7. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    My chinook are starting to perk up. I’ve never cut back the first growth, or trained/cut back the weaker growing bines but this year I may have to try that and see how they do
     
  8. JrGtr

    JrGtr Pooh-Bah (1,775) Apr 13, 2006 Massachusetts
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    Massachusetts here. I checked mine today, and |I have a couple sprouts just starting to poke through. I'll usually let them get about a foot up, then cut back the first batch.
    |I'll let 3 or 4 go up once I get the strings up. |I do have to periodically cut back through the summer or more come through - |I should dig them up and trim back.
    Mine are 6 years in this location, 2 of them I had another 5 years back and transplanted from another place.
     
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    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    id keep them cut back, then next spring before they sprout, dig and remove several rizomes,

    this will keep your plants form spreding and less mowing. i trim mine BOUT EVERY 2YEARS
     
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    riptorn Pooh-Bah (1,776) Apr 26, 2018 Georgia
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    This is the third year for both Cascade and Goldings. A week ago I cut the first growth to the ground. Yesterday I made the first application of neem oil to the shoots that have sprouted since cutting them back.

    The Cascade made about 30 cones last year, and the Goldings produced zero cones in the first two years. Hoping for a better yield. Looks like the rhizomes should be trimmed next spring. The Goldings shoots are popping up about 3 feet from the original location.
     
  11. Hanglow

    Hanglow Pooh-Bah (2,051) Feb 18, 2012 Scotland
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    My hallertau mittelfruh is up to 4ft and my centennial about 1ft. cut back and eaten about 100 shoots from two plants so far. Cut 10 rhizomes that are shooting up now and will plant them in hedgerows in the coming weeks
     
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    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    How do these do with grazing deer?

    I am at the point where anything with leaves below giraffe grazing height is eliminated. Tulips last 1 day. Anything remotely succulent is chewed down. If I am going to finally invest in growing some hops I'd like re-assurance that it is not a deer nutrition program.

    Cheers
     
  13. riptorn

    riptorn Pooh-Bah (1,776) Apr 26, 2018 Georgia
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    Deer have a well-worn path that they travel frequently within 40' of my small hopstand, and they've walked through it too. They eat the greenbriars, rhododendron leaves, blackberry stalks, young daylilly leaves and other succulents but have never touched my hops, even the most tender shoots. I don't know if it's neem oil applications that keeps them at bay, or if they're teetotalers and don't like anything that reminds them of beer.

    C'mon man....take the plunge.


    ETA: Whitetail deer in my area. I've read, but cannot confirm, that mule deer have been known to eat hops plants.
     
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  14. Soneast

    Soneast Pooh-Bah (1,751) May 9, 2008 Wisconsin
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    All summer long I have deer walk right past my hops to eat my other garden veggies. Never had anything eat them, except Japanese beetles. DAMN BEETLES!
     
  15. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Yup, Japanese beetles do like to eat hop plants. I set up Japanese beetle trap bags about 25 feet away to manage those pesky bugs:

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    Cheers!
     
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    Soneast Pooh-Bah (1,751) May 9, 2008 Wisconsin
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    I'm going to try that this year. I've heard good and bad thing about using the traps. Good, in that they work. Bad in that they attract beetles from all around the neighborhood into your yard. I have a corner lot so I'm thinking if I put them in the furthest corner from my hops, near the street, there is not a whole lot over there that they can hurt.
     
  17. NickTheGreat

    NickTheGreat Maven (1,470) Oct 28, 2010 Iowa
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    I planted a pot of Centennial? hops like 7 years ago. And I have never done a damn thing to them. They always come up, but just the other day I noticed a few other stragglers poking up.

    Maybe this will be the year I do it right!
     
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  18. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    deer, like ripper, are all around my hop yard and they have not been a problem.


    Of course, since i am commercially growing vegies, in VT i can shoot just about anything that damages, kills or gets after my crops and i do. seems they know, now, not to get too close, hahahahaahahahaaa
     
  19. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    strung new lines to all hop plants in the rain today. all except goldings growing well, but they are coming
     
  20. Granitebeard

    Granitebeard Zealot (549) Aug 24, 2016 Maine

    Been away from here in for a while. Came back for a thread like this.

    Mine are well. I need to get out and cut back the first growth. Will try to do that today. I have some new cascade to put in where my nugget was. Looks like this year is going to be busy for me. Also, I cut new wires so I can have to strings per hill on separate wires. The few I doubled up last year were nuts during harvest as they stuck together.
     
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