Reading Beer Can Labels

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by daviddagesse1, Apr 16, 2021.

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Just wondering what people think about making beer can label design easy to read?

  1. Yes

    41 vote(s)
    95.3%
  2. No

    3 vote(s)
    7.0%
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  1. daviddagesse1

    daviddagesse1 Devotee (345) Jun 23, 2010 Massachusetts

    I can appreciate the amazing creativity behind the artistic design of so many beer cans, but my eyes are not what they used to be. Bottom line - I want to know the name, brewery location, and ABV. Am I being overly fussy?
     
  2. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I don’t care much about the art, but can dates, some info on ingredients is very helpful.
     
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  3. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    You want to know what you’re buying? Boy, you’re picky!
     
  4. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    You mean, like these?

    [​IMG]

    I can't. But then, for me, junior high school was a long time ago.
    Huh? So, you can vote both "YES" and "NO"?
     
  5. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    There was a time in the early 80s I was on a mission to see how low could I go, and still enjoy the beers. Just married, money was tight, and I was regularly buying Reading and or Gibbons in those hard flip top cases 16 Oz returnables, $4 a case or so if I remember right. I survived ok, no frills, but if they were any better or worse than Miler or Bud it was lost on me. Funny we all made fun of Iron City, but in reality it’s about the same quality that we were drinking.
     
  6. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    If the art isn't in a frame to be hung on my living room wall I don't care about it. I hardly look at any can except to find the name and details about the beer, which sometimes aren't even there and I waste a minute before I realize that I'm wasting my time. Why put art on the backside if you can see only half the can at one time, anyway? Who's going to slice the can open and flatten it to properly appreciate the art like the artist probably intended? The entire back side should be reserved for information.
     
  7. Giantspace

    Giantspace Grand Pooh-Bah (3,043) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    I bought a beer a bit ago because it was a fresh IPA from a brewer I like. There was almost no info but DDH IPA. Turns out it was a mosaic rye ipa. How the F do you not put that on your can???? Makes me wonder how many other beers that I would be interested in buying do I miss due to lack of communication on product. Seems crazy to me or do breweries just expect they will sell anything the put out there?

    Enjoy
     
  8. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    What, you drank that @#$%! Nah, I went for the good stuff:
    [​IMG]

    Same brewers (C. Schmidt & Sons and The Lion), same bottles (in different returnable shells) likely the same price, too. :smiley: Sadly, once Bergheim became a Schmidt's of Phila. product (1976) it was apparently no longer brewed "With pure mountain spring water from the Penna. Dutch country" like the Old Reading brewery labels said :slight_frown: even though the water fall was still right there on the label!

    $4 sounds cheap though I can't remember early 80s pricing (esp. after post late-70s inflation) but PA apparently had a law against distributors advertising price (or maybe it was an agreement among the distributors?) since it's very rare to find prices in ads during that period.

    By the late 80s, ads in western PA showed cases of Returnable 16's (Schaefer & Piels, Genesee, Stoney's, Schmidt, Iron City) going for between a bit under $6 up to $7 and change.

    Ever try that, tho'? It doesn't really work because aluminum cans are formed by a press from a thicker piece of aluminum, the "curve" of the can doesn't go away once the lid and base are cut off as a result. Of course, today for a lot of brands, art collectors can just peel off the aluminum or plastic "label" - no framing or nails to hang it from even necessary, just stick it on the wall!
     
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  9. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    I just love having to turn a can around every which way to get the details.

    Sarcastic mode off.

    Sometimes I have to use the less "attractive" side of a can when I upload pics so at least the beer's name or brewery is visible.
     
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  10. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    As someone who's designed packaging and labels for glasses and bottles, I can tell you the intention behind those designs keep the presentation in mind. Not like composing a painting on a board or canvas and just deciding to wrap it on a can.

    Of course, I can't speak for other designers.

    Plus, when I was putting together a few beer bottle labels, the ATF had very strict rules on size and placement of the info they required -- often encroaching on a well laid out design, to everyone's chagrin.
     
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  11. Ozzylizard

    Ozzylizard Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,419) Oct 5, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    Give me info and keep the artsy-fartsy designs!
     
  12. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Jesskidden walks into liquor stores, spends about 20 seconds looking at beer (previously an unheard of amount of time), then heads to the door.

    Beer guy notices him leaving. "Uh, are you looking for something in particular?"

    "Yeah, my most powerful reading glasses. I hopin' I left 'em in the center console in the truck...If not, see ya tomorrow!"
     
  13. pulse

    pulse Savant (1,205) Mar 22, 2016 Ohio

    Nothing like going into a shop with lots of coolers and having to reach in every other beer to try to figure out what you're looking at (or even how much it costs). Especially these days when you might want to handle the merchandise as little as possible.

    Love good art and appreciate all that goes into making a label that's fun to stare at. However, it's counterproductive if you can't discern the relevant information. There are so many options... why not go with the one I can actually read.

    I guess some places might figure you can just look up on your phone anyway.
     
  14. VitisVinifera

    VitisVinifera Pundit (879) Feb 25, 2013 California

    beer is art (and science), and so is label design. My major gripe is totally illegible canning date printing on the underside
     
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  15. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Red white and Blue was under $4, I believe Valley Forge was in the price range as well, Rolling Rock ponies were $3.50 but 7 oz bottles we bought in Trenton because it was cheaper. I’m not too far off on those prices though, but in 1975 I was making $1.10 an hour at WaWa, so all in proportion.
     
  16. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    I don’t think the op is asking much. You can provide lots of info on a can/bottle AND have awesome and eye catching art. It’s not one or the other. In my perfect world, every bottle/can would include the style, abv, and packaged on date. That’d be great. I get that breweries are reluctant to put packaged on dates (as most of the shit we buy is probably old as hell) and that they are slightly reluctant to put a style. But I really don’t think it’s asking a lot to list the abv. Abv has a huge effect on whether or not I buy a beer. I can’t tell you how much of my time in bottle shops is actually spent looking up abv of potential purchases on beeradvocate on my phone.
     
  17. milkshakebeersucks

    milkshakebeersucks Pooh-Bah (2,392) Feb 10, 2020 Maryland
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    I've come to accept that things that annoy me (like beer can art) are just a fact of life. They are generally targeted at a selected audience that does not include me. What I have to do is stayed informed when I shop and not just about the latest canned incarnation of a NEIPA.

    It applies to bottles as well. As an example, look at the Westvleteren 12. To enjoy it you have to know what's in the bottle, because the containers' not going to help you.

    I'll reserve my love of beer art for the six pack holders.
     
  18. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    :astonished: Less than the Federal minimum?
    May 1, 1974 -$2.00
    Jan. 1, 1975 - $2.10

    (Email the DoJ and see if the statute of limitations has run out.
    What - didn't everyone tell you to save those check stubs!)

    But my comment on typical beer pricing was based on the period you mentioned here, not the mid-70s:
     
  19. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Yep that’s right, I’m thinking $2.10 hr plus the beer we put in the fridge and all we could eat.
     
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  20. crazyspicychef

    crazyspicychef Pooh-Bah (2,341) Sep 27, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    Brewery logo, Beer Name, Style, abv, drink by/bottling date.
    And maybe a little snippet about the properties of said beer.
    That's all I need.
    Naked ladies on the back would be o.k. too.
     
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