Covid Ruining Some Really Good Beers?

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  1. Antg8989

    Antg8989 Pooh-Bah (1,582) Jul 18, 2014 New Jersey
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    Is it just me, or were there some really good beers (that have seemingly been overproduced and distributed unusually due to covid circumstances) that have lost their luster because of the very nature of the current situation? I'm afraid great beers are being experienced at their weakest point. And this has been a common theme I've noticed among some really good beers. Anybody else run into this situation? I don't feel like naming any beers or breweries in particular.
     
  2. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,285) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    Nothing comes to mind for me. Curious what examples people are thinking of...?

    I think a lot of beers were sitting on the shelves pre-COVID. If anything, COVID has changed the production cycle of some breweries. A local brewery mentioned he has had to change what he brews since it's to-go format only. People order more session-able beer for on-site, but spring for heavier, more flavor-rich beers to-go. But this hasn't really put any beers in a bad light, at least, none that I've noticed.
     
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  3. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    And by "weakest point" you mean "a point when they are easier to acquire?" :wink:
     
  4. cjgiant

    cjgiant Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,584) Jul 13, 2013 District of Columbia
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    Hmmm... I’m not going to tentatively agree with @zid, but approach it from a different angle...

    I did enjoy traveling for beer. Hitting a not-to-me-but-for-others local brewery was an experience. And when I last did it, there were “hyped” offerings (often NE IPAs) that the brewery was known for. What I learned was, at that point, we mostly all have one-plus[times?] that many breweries near us. Were NJ/PA/OH/MI’s locals better than my locals?

    Short general answer that you could see coming: No.

    So, those locals where I had the enjoyment of the experience of visiting (on vacation, mostly) is lost. That just leaves the beer.

    Sure, it’s likely less fresh (I’ve seen the gambit on this, though, when the info was available), but I think it could also be that people are realizing there’s a more even playing field than they think.

    Essentially I’m describing the concept of local hype, which has been discussed here often enough. I think it might apply here,no?
     
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  5. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Well, given the events of the last year, a lot of breweries who previously had little or no packaging or distro, had to switch over to keep income flowing. Not only are the beers getting out, they're getting farther out. We're seeing beers that we've only heard about before. When beers get beyond their home area, they don't have the home field advantage anymore, and beers get looked at with a different set of eyes.
     
  6. chipawayboy

    chipawayboy Pooh-Bah (2,181) Oct 26, 2007 Massachusetts
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    No FOMO means previously hyped beers are now NOGO. Blame COVID for a lot of dastardly cruel shit but “ruining” beers ain’t one of em.
     
  7. cjgiant

    cjgiant Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,584) Jul 13, 2013 District of Columbia
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    Well that was more succinctly put than my version. No surprise given our relative BA personalities :grin:
     
  8. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    I think there is something to be said for rarity, or FOMO as stated above.

    I don’t think the current situation ruined any beers. I think it ruined or accelerated the decline of the rarity hype business model that so many breweries relied on.
     
  9. russpowell

    russpowell Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,292) May 24, 2005 Arkansas
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    No, not that I can see. Why a producer wouldn't turn to the optimal profit production model when the bottom drops put is beyond me, As long as resources held up I would put that as my target. If your BullGod Beer keeps afloat, F your flasgship beer
     
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  10. dennisthreeninefiveone

    dennisthreeninefiveone Pundit (980) Aug 11, 2020 New Jersey
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    Why? Naming names can only make your case stronger.
     
  11. BigIronH

    BigIronH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,762) Oct 31, 2019 Michigan
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    I agree. I kind of need to know what he’s talking about so I can make a fair judgement.
     
  12. Fordcoyote15

    Fordcoyote15 Pooh-Bah (2,368) Nov 19, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    X3. I really don't know what the OP is referring to.
     
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  13. Antg8989

    Antg8989 Pooh-Bah (1,582) Jul 18, 2014 New Jersey
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    Mainly didn't want to name any since I don't want to give the breweries a bad rep, because their beers are usually top notch. But I think after reading this all and giving it some thought, it probably has more to do with the distro of the beer and how they are being stored and for how long. I've noticed it mainly with pale ales and IPAs - most recently several from Toppling Goliath and Lawsons. I do always look for the dates on my beers - and recently it hasn't been anything out of the ordinary (1-2 months old.) The beers themselves have just not been as "bright" - lots of hop characteristic seems to be faded. It could be a hop thing, but my assumption now is that these beers must be being stored at room or warmer temperatures for extended periods of time before being put on the shelf or in the fridge. Just wanted to see if anybody else noticed that. Maybe the distributors in this area aren't storing beer properly because of over-abundance.
     
  14. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I think your right here. In NC we get some Surly products, some Jack Abby, Grimm. In NC, Lawson and Alchemist beers get drops, Toppling Goliath. Things I thought I’d never see, fresh stuff too, not in volume, but enough that you can find it. Instead of stuffing local shelves and creating shelf turds they moved them into completely new areas to keep them fresh. It makes too much sense, but you do what’s financially best under the circumstances.
     
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  15. dennisthreeninefiveone

    dennisthreeninefiveone Pundit (980) Aug 11, 2020 New Jersey
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    I haven't noticed any change in the beer itself, just changes in the taproom/bar experience. I dislike the switch to crowlers and hope refilling growlers comes back soon.
     
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  16. oldmankoch

    oldmankoch Maven (1,299) Jan 1, 2014 Utah

    Does the greater Asheville area receive these drops from Surly, JA, Grimm, Lawsons & Alchemist? Haven't had anything from them since pre-Covid living here on the other side of the Smokies in TN. We have a vacation cabin booked for June so I'd love to grab some of those beers to enjoy while there.
     
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  17. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I need to amend my post a bit, I meant that PA gets Lawson’s and Alchemist drops not NC.
     
  18. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I don’t know how far Jack Abby, Grimm, or Furious goes. Not sure who the distro guys are. But call Peabodies in Boone ask fir Chris, if they don’t have it it’s not gettable, and they ship beer.
     
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  19. oldmankoch

    oldmankoch Maven (1,299) Jan 1, 2014 Utah

    Thanks for the tip. Will Do!!
     
  20. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    I think TG probably does have some of the issues you are alluding too, but not because of COVID specifically ... I think their IPAs just aren't what they used to be (with the caveat that perhaps my tastes have changed or other brewers have caught up to what TG was doing).
     
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