Bottle Conditioned Beers - to decant or not?

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  1. chipawayboy

    chipawayboy Pooh-Bah (2,181) Oct 26, 2007 Massachusetts
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    Having a couple of vintage Bigfoot Barleywines tonight w/ a friend. I noticed each beer has quite a load of yeast/stuff in the bottom of the bottle. Are there any rules of thumb on handling sediment from bottle conditioning and do they vary by style/age/origin? Should I decant or not? Seems like this decision will have a significant impact on the look/flavor of the beer etc. My instinct says decant - but surprisingly was not able to find much guidance w simple google searches. Any help appreciated oh BA gurus!
     
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  2. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Different people have different preferences... and sometimes for different styles.

    Hefeweizen, for example, is a style that people typically pour fully into a glass (sometimes after swirling what's left at the bottom of a bottle)... while many Belgian brewers recommend leaving sediment in the bottle for their beers (and some people enjoy the practice of pouring the remaining sediment filled beer into a separate shot glass for consumption).

    I normally decant no matter the beer, but perhaps I'll change my mind someday.
     
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  3. sulldaddy

    sulldaddy Grand Pooh-Bah (5,716) Apr 6, 2003 Connecticut
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    I almost always decant older bottles. At best the sludge gives me some B vitamins and gas.. At worst it could affect aroma and flavor, and certainly clarity of a beer.

    One thing I have tried sometimes is decant first. Smell, drink some of the beer and if curious later add a little of the dredges to you glass and see what happens.
    Just like cellaring its all an experiment!

    Good luck and enjoy your beers!
     
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  4. Peach63

    Peach63 Pooh-Bah (2,442) Jul 17, 2019 New York
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    The choice is yours. As a home brewer, I bottle condition so I have a layer of yeast sediment. When I drink my beers, I pour slowly into a glass/mug and leave the sediment behind. or you can swirl it around and drink it. It won't hurt you. With store bought beers, I don't worry about the sediment and just pour it out with the beer.
     
  5. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Why would you have a different practice for commercial beer with sediment and homebrew with sediment?
     
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  6. Peach63

    Peach63 Pooh-Bah (2,442) Jul 17, 2019 New York
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    I don't know. :thinking_face: I'm going to go lay on my shrinks couch and ask them the same question. :grin: And pay em a 100 bucks for a 1/2 hour. :grimacing:
     
  7. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    I keep the sludge at the bottom but pour 99% of the beer in. Which usually results in some of the sediment to come in. I don’t mind that I just don’t want it all or the majority of it. Usually voyage bottles the sledge settles pretty firmly so it’s easy to avoid getting it.

    On a side note if you are sharing vintage bottles with a friend/s it helps to pour a little at a time in each glass and do it multiple times vs all at once. Did a narwhal vertical with 2 friends and noticed all three tasted a little different if you poured their full amount into one glass, then the next two. Seemed like flavors settled in particular places in the bottle. So now I pour a little in each glass then go around again.
     
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  8. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I always decant bottle conditioned beers (both commercial and homebrewed).

    Adding the sediment during the pour will indeed impact appearance and sensory aspects to the beer.

    Some folks are sensitive to the live yeast that is part of the sediment and it will cause GI distress (e.g., gas).

    Cheers!
     
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  9. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    It's obvious that you view the decanting as the responsible final step in your diligent brewing process before properly enjoying your beer... and you just aren't as personally invested in process with the beer you buy because you didn't brew it. You can send me that $100 now.
     
  10. sulldaddy

    sulldaddy Grand Pooh-Bah (5,716) Apr 6, 2003 Connecticut
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    Aw come on....give him the discount rate of a case of homebrew per 1/2 hour!!
     
  11. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    I've experimented enough with drinking the sediment and have been disappointed every time. A chalky-like muted flavor is what I get. So it's a decant every time for me.

    EDIT: I'll add that with BBA beers, the sediment isn't so much chalky, but it does destroy the bourbon character and that's a no-no for me. The bourbon taste is why I buy those beers.
     
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  12. Peach63

    Peach63 Pooh-Bah (2,442) Jul 17, 2019 New York
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    Actually, commercial bottle conditioned brews generally have less sediment than my home brews. I like lively carbonation in my home brews regardless of style. More priming solution = more sediment. The check is in the mail! :wink:
     
  13. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    With my somewhat sloppy homebrewing process some hops matter was also known to get into the bottles, so another reason to decant.
     
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  14. rocdoc1

    rocdoc1 Savant (1,215) Jan 13, 2006 New Mexico

    With a fairly fresh hefeweizen I'll swirl the sediment and add it to the glass. Every other beer gets decanted. Many commercial beers are bottled with yeast that is not the yeast the beer was fermented with so there's nothing "special" about drinking it.
     
  15. chipawayboy

    chipawayboy Pooh-Bah (2,181) Oct 26, 2007 Massachusetts
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    Thx for the tips all. The decanted 2010 Bigfoot was pretty amazing - little to no oxidation that I could detect and the beer poured a gorgeous crystal clear mahogany. It’s funny because most of the untapped pics I looked at for this beer show a muddy brown appearance - so I’m assuming most folks posting either don’t realize the extend of the sediment in this beer or prefer to mix it before drinking - the latter being inlikely given the responses to this thread. Cheers all.
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  16. rocdoc1

    rocdoc1 Savant (1,215) Jan 13, 2006 New Mexico

    When we moved across state 3 years ago I found a stash of Bigfoots from 2006, 2008 and 2012. They have been amazingly great so far.
     
  17. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Grand Pooh-Bah (3,732) Sep 15, 2014 Colorado
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    I always dump it all in.

    #teamchunkies
     
  18. zac16125

    zac16125 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,432) Jan 26, 2010 South Carolina
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    I have never used the term decant in regards to beer before but yeah I always pour carefully and leave the sediment in the bottom. It seems like with some styles the sediment does provide some substantial aromatics, but I haven’t found it adding anything positive to the taste profiles (and in fact often detracts IMO.) It also destroys the appearance. Plus factor in the GI issues, presumably from the yeast, and it’s an easy decision for me. In fact if it’s a new to me beer or a beer Im not familiar with I often just assume it’s bottle conditioned and leave the last oz or so in the bottle.

    If the sediment sneaks in I find that different styles are influenced to different degrees. An English Barleywine, generally not a huge deal. But say a traditional or fruited Lambic and the entire integrity of the beer seems compromised.
     
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