Trade gone wrong!!

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by BEER88, Jul 19, 2021.

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  1. BEER88

    BEER88 Pooh-Bah (2,086) Apr 2, 2015 North Carolina
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    Hello BA’ers!
    Hope everyone is well and enjoying the summer. I am writing this to get some clarity on my last trade and get some advice on how to move forward! I recently traded my normal over the top boxes (with Floodland bottles in it) for some solid BA stouts in return. My box made it there safe and sound but the shippers box never made it due to UPS (i think). At first I wanted my box back but was open to another box with not the bottles I wanted (to be nice). The second also never made it due to UPS again!! I was offered money or my box back but didn’t want to chance it. I told the shipper to keep my box and get me back later. They are compliant and appreciative!
    How long should I give this trader? And what should I expect? They are not in the wrong I just need clarity! Thanks and Cheers!
     
  2. TmKeisySC

    TmKeisySC Pundit (974) Apr 20, 2014 South Carolina
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    Did you receive a tracking # in both instances and if so, what does the website say about the lost boxes?
     
  3. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    I'd think the timeline of "getting you back" is sort of up to you. Your trade partner hasn't come though on their end yet so it seems like whenever an opportunity to rectify the situation presented itself it would be on them to make it happen
     
  4. MattOC

    MattOC Pooh-Bah (2,100) Jan 13, 2013 Massachusetts
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    “Due to UPS”, What does that actually mean in these two instances? Were the boxes damaged in transit, the opened and discovered alcohol, or disappeared off of radar? Like @TmKeisySC I’d like to know more about tracking info and why the boxes never made it.

    As for the trader, if these are solid BA stouts that he might have extras of and or can obtain easily, then you can stick to the original trade agreement. Otherwise, you come up with something you agree will be sufficient to satisfy you off of the original agreed upon trade.

    As for timeframe, it shouldn’t be open ended. They are still responsible for getting you a box, never heard of two from the same trader not making it. Hopefully the third time is a charm.

    Good luck.
     
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  5. Jinx989

    Jinx989 Savant (1,082) Apr 22, 2015 Illinois
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    And most definitely ask him to NOT use UPS next time.
     
  6. bret27

    bret27 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,064) Mar 10, 2009 California
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    I know people love to hate the usps, but they’re 5x faster, cheaper, and don’t mess with my boxes no matter how heavy or sloshy.
     
  7. BEER88

    BEER88 Pooh-Bah (2,086) Apr 2, 2015 North Carolina
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    Yes, I was given both tracking numbers. The first one i checked said undeliverable and the second one i checked said in transit then undeliverable. The sender called and i think something leaked the first time and I didn’t ask the second time!
     
  8. BEER88

    BEER88 Pooh-Bah (2,086) Apr 2, 2015 North Carolina
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    This is what I figured, just wanted mire opinions.
     
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  9. BEER88

    BEER88 Pooh-Bah (2,086) Apr 2, 2015 North Carolina
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    Thanks I have never heard of twice either which is why i am even bothering writing this post/forum!
     
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  10. BEER88

    BEER88 Pooh-Bah (2,086) Apr 2, 2015 North Carolina
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    I already expressed this, hopefully they learn!
     
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  11. BEER88

    BEER88 Pooh-Bah (2,086) Apr 2, 2015 North Carolina
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    I only use USPS or FedEx!
     
  12. Yabu

    Yabu Savant (1,150) Feb 4, 2015 California
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    Two random bad experiences, indicate the your trader messed up? Or he was extremely unlucky.

    One important question, is the trade thru BA? Is the trader new or a veteran?

    As far as how long to wait... I've waited a few months one time for a trader to make it right. I wasn't worried.
     
  13. Affinity

    Affinity Savant (1,134) Nov 24, 2018 Missouri
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    Fool me once, shame on you
    Fool me twice, shame on me

    2 consecutive boxes confiscated? Has that ever happened to anyone else? By the second box I would have asked for my beer back. Even if this is just as simple as the other trader doesn't know how to pack a box so it doesn't break en route, no need to wait around for you to be heartbroken a third time. The only concern with getting your beer back would be if they didn't pack those right and then they broke in transit. Time to move on with your life and cut ties from this trade before it becomes a bad trader thread.
     
  14. William_Navidson

    William_Navidson Pooh-Bah (1,557) May 1, 2015 Pennsylvania
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    Just weighing in on the likelihood of two confiscated boxes -- I definitely don't think it's out of the question that it occurred and was sent in good faith, given that certain locales are far more "diligent" (to put it nicely) about finding beer. For instance, I went years without getting a box taken and then it happened twice at my local FedEx facility (with a third attempt that I managed to catch). That doesn't mean that FedEx should be avoided everywhere, but I don't like to have them used locally... this could be the same sort of issue.

    Or, the trader could have packed poorly and that's why they're gone... or something more nefarious. I have no clue, just wanted to note that two taken boxes doesn't necessarily indicate that evil is afoot.
     
  15. BEER88

    BEER88 Pooh-Bah (2,086) Apr 2, 2015 North Carolina
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    It was through BA and they are a veteran so I will definitely be playing the wait game, thanks for the advice and like i said I just wanted some second opinions
     
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  16. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    If the other trader is within driving range I would drive over and do the deal in person.
     
  17. colby600

    colby600 Pooh-Bah (1,919) Mar 24, 2015 Connecticut
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    I only use UPS as I find the others incompetent. So to each his own.
     
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  18. colby600

    colby600 Pooh-Bah (1,919) Mar 24, 2015 Connecticut
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    I'm not entirely sure what there is to wait for. He needs to figure out how to pack a box safely if they aren't making it.
     
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  19. BEER88

    BEER88 Pooh-Bah (2,086) Apr 2, 2015 North Carolina
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    It is unfortunately across the country, but i did think of this after the first box!
     
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  20. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    Any updates?
     
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