Bad Trader: chardlogic

You both sent each other a Westly, but only realized this after boxes were packed and shipped?

 

While misreading a post can certainly happen, yours was quite straightforward and if I was involved in a trade like this my first message would have gone like, “have you closed this? If not, I have your Generational.”

Then once agreed, each party lays out the bottles involved in messages so it’s clear and confirmed from both sides. If they don’t see the mix up then, it should have never gotten to packing and shipping.

The call out on communication from their side seems wild. Your post portrays there were plenty of messages and communication. It seems like they were impatient, but that impatience should have lessened once you explained that you would/might be delayed in responding due to work, but interest in getting a deal done remained. That’s good on you for communicating that.

Not sure that once the mistake was realized, that it could not have been rectified easily. If boxes were already shipped, just turnaround and send them back once they were received. Sort of a wash on cost from that end. Especially since the main bottle you got back from them was one you already had FT and it seems like no one got what they wanted, except maybe from the bottles you expanded with to make it 3:3. If they could not come up with a Generational or something agreed upon with you that satisfied the trade then everything should have been returned.

As for the feedback, seems like that was done in haste on both sides. They should have apologized for misreading as well as not sending a bottle they thought they had. More communication and patience could have sorted this out amicably. If either feedback was left in retaliation, then it can be grounds for banning.

 

Maybe post screenshots (redacting any PII/addresses) of the DMs? But seems pretty clear cut based off the OP.

 

Giving bad feedback for a trader who satisfied their end of the deal is definitely bad trader behavior.

Either returning both shipments at their expense or refunding the amount your original shipment cost would have been in order.

Your trade should have been rated good, and if they had done the above, then you would have been justified in marking them either good or neutral.

But at this point, considering their reaction, rating theirs as bad fits the bill, but the feedback they gave you needs to be adjusted. We usually need a mod to push for that.

 

This couldn’t be any clearer!

 

I agree. Even with a misread, which I think is a stretch here, the bottles in the trade should be laid out in messages so everyone is on the same page before anything is packed/shipped.

 

I wasn’t suggesting yours was. Just pointing out the possible punishment for doing so. You’d be inclined to provide bad or neutral. Them leaving bad on you and the communication being the reason is bs.

I agree with you. An apology should have been there and a trader should do everything in their power to make it right.

 

Not sure who the appropriate mod is for this situation, but I think we're ready. @FBarber can we seek some mod input at this point?

 

Wait so you posted ISO generational FT westly...he sent you a westly for your westly and then gave you bad feedback??

Damn, I would be pissed too if I sent someone a beer only to get the same beer in return...but to then blame someone else for my mistake reading the post is crazy! If anything you should be posting the bad (or neutral) trade feedback.

GL OP, hope you get things worked out.

 

This.

Also, we were closing in on a year without one of these. Boo.

Last, red rover, red rover, let @chardlogic come over...

EDIT: Regardless of what happens in the end here, @chardlogic you're profile pic is great. Is that like a 4 Loko in a lambic basket, in a HF glass?

 

Homer Simpson voice: mmmm, blue hill farmstead!

 

So, not to toot my own horn or anything, but-

At the height of the VSOJ craze, I misread a ISO/FT with @Topease. We would have sent each other the same thing. Luckily, I realized this before either of us shipped anything (<24 hrs), but it was enough time for him to mark his post as closed. I felt so bad for him missing prime trading time that I sent him a box of locals and semi-chase BAs valued around $50 and shipping of $18. I thought that was the bare minimum I could do for the inconvenience.

I think anyone misreading a trade post should at least make right by refunding shipping, and at most send an apology box for messing with “time in market” aka trade opportunity lost.