Do you Seek the Seal?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Todd, Sep 16, 2021.

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Do you look for the Independent Craft Brewer Seal when buying beer?

Poll closed Oct 16, 2021.
  1. Yes

    88 vote(s)
    20.7%
  2. No

    292 vote(s)
    68.5%
  3. Never heard of it

    46 vote(s)
    10.8%
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  1. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
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    According to the Brewers Association's #LocalBeerIsBetter campaign:
    Assuming the beer is good, and the people behind the beer are good, it's hard to argue with all of that. But within the campaign is a call to "Seek the Seal," which is another campaign that the Brewers Association launched in June 2017 to help consumers identify which brewers were small and independent (aka: a craft brewer, as defined by the Brewers Association for its US-based membership).

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    It's been just over four years since the seal launched. Thousands of American breweries have adopted the seal, and thousands of supporters have signed up too. But what about you? Do you #SeekTheSeal when buying beer?

    Vote now and drop a reply with your thoughts. And if you vote "Never head of it," I'd love to hear if you plan on seeking the seal now.

    Thanks! :beers:
     
  2. alexsergio

    alexsergio Grand Pooh-Bah (3,115) Mar 7, 2011 New York
    Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    In a word, no.

    edit: I seek the quality.
     
  3. Resistance88

    Resistance88 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,462) Apr 9, 2015 California
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    Sometimes. Most of my favorites are Independents tho
     
  4. cjgiant

    cjgiant Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,584) Jul 13, 2013 District of Columbia
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    I don’t seek the label out, but I do often search for independent brewers. I kinda like when I happen to see it, though. I’d also consider myself a fairly educated consumer (mostly from this site) in this regard, and the seal isn’t a learning device for me.
     
  5. Bigrock

    Bigrock Maven (1,301) Feb 4, 2013 Texas
    BA4LYFE Society

    I don't. I'm in a market with pretty limited choices, and thanks to places like BA, I can pretty much keep up with who the players are in my market.
     
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  6. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    I can’t read “seek the seal”™ and not think of seal hunters. Doesn’t exactly give the warm fuzzies the BA was aiming for.
     
  7. 2beerdogs

    2beerdogs Grand Pooh-Bah (5,682) Jan 31, 2005 California
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    It catches my eye. But I don't seek it out.
     
  8. jkrich

    jkrich Pooh-Bah (1,878) Nov 1, 2001 Florida
    Society Pooh-Bah

    When I clicked on the link "Seek the Seal" in Todd's entry above, I immediately recognized that I have enjoyed numerous beers with that "seal" but sadly I didn't really think anything about the label at the time. This forum and the attached article have given me a greater appreciation for independent craft brewers.
     
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  9. dbl_delta

    dbl_delta Grand Pooh-Bah (4,001) Sep 22, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    The Independent Craft Brewers Association is an industry association that pretty much any brewer can join - as long as you're small, you're not owned by somebody who's too big to qualify for membership, and you brew beer. Those criteria don't necessarily result in a good product.
    I agree that we ought to support small craft brewers, but I buy beer I like. If it has the CBA seal on it, so much the better. But I don't browse the shelves looking for it.
     
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  10. WillieThreebiers

    WillieThreebiers Grand High Pooh-Bah (9,203) Apr 26, 2012 Connecticut
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  11. teromous

    teromous Grand Pooh-Bah (3,180) Mar 21, 2010 Virginia
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    If they made it a requirement to put a "bottled/canned on date" in a box next to that logo there would be a reason for me to look at it.
     
  12. Bhubbard34

    Bhubbard34 Pooh-Bah (2,585) Mar 4, 2016 Pennsylvania
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    Never really looked for the seal……but I bet 90% of the beer I buy probably has it because I almost always buy from smaller breweries
     
  13. Rysk22

    Rysk22 Savant (1,240) Nov 12, 2014 Massachusetts
    Trader

    I feel like most people who are on this forum know what they're looking for in a store, or at least have an idea of which breweries are independent without needing to see the seal.

    I like what it stands for, I just don't look for it.
     
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  14. russpowell

    russpowell Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,292) May 24, 2005 Arkansas
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    Usually only if it is a new to me brewery. To be fair, there are plenty ICB brewers putting out middling stuff.
     
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  15. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    While I do support many local breweries, there are some I won't go into again because their beer was awful after several chances.

    I don't care about the seal and pay no attention to it in my buying decisions.

    I will be sampling several beers in the upcoming Oktoberfest online tasting that don't meet the qualifications for the seal. I expect most, maybe even all, of them will be excellent.

    Not only do I not seek the seal, I consider the seal's requirements to be meaningless double-speak.

    For example, being owned by external masters is still considered "independent" so long as those masters are not in the alcohol business. In what dictionary are they getting their definition from for the word "independent"?

    And, another example, small brewers bought up by owners of multiple small brewers are still considered "independent." I wonder, what does John Reardon think about such "independence" as it relates to Deep Ellum Brewing (which still loudly proclaims itself to the "LARGEST INDEPENDENT BREWERY IN NORTH TEXAS." :rolling_eyes:)
     
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  16. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
    Mod Team BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    What did the Czechs ever do to you??
     
  17. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
    Mod Team BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    I do not seek the seal out.
     
  18. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I didn’t know what it is until now. I will definitely make it a point to seek this out and have no problem prioritizing a B+ beer with the seal over an A- beer without it.
     
  19. Fenski

    Fenski Pundit (791) Apr 24, 2008 Ohio
    Society

    Some breweries who have the seal don't have good beers while others who don't have the seal have good beers so no, I do not seek the seal.
     
  20. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I do. Have been since the BA released it. Why? Beer is frivolous, it's my fun money, why wouldn't I want to spend it with another working stiff like myself? Big business already gets enough cash.
     
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