UPS Is Straight Up Murdering Beer Out There

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by Sabtos, Oct 6, 2021.

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  1. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    I've never, in my well over 200 shipped trades, seen or heard anything like this.

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    In fact, I've even seen both FedEx and USPS take broken or spilled beer out of shipments, package any surviving beer back up, and deliver it to me in a fresh garbage bag, like it wasn't a bother at all.

    But UPS has gone above and beyond to be absolute pieces of shit.

    I've always be averse to UPS--they've done a few questionable things here and there: some weirdly missing packages or delivery failures without any of the kinds of explanations you get from other logistics companies; knocking and waiting for an answer, up to and including refusal of delivery, even when a signature is not requested and it's not labeled as 21+; and to unabashedly get petty, I've never really liked the way they drive relative to the other box trucks. lol...

    But this...this is so extra. This is something else entirely. And frankly, it should be illegal. Straight up looting and destroying customers' packages, with no note whatsoever, whether on the shipment's tracking, or on or in the box itself. Or even simply returning the damn box to the sender and giving them a warning. And before anyone quotes any laws, regulations or company policies to me, I know. I get it. But to hell with that. I'm no spring chicken. Like I said, I've been around the block and seen damn near everything in this game, shipping to and receiving from all over the world. This wasn't some huge whale of a package. There wasn't anything irreplaceable, whether we're talking secondary value, retail, rarity or otherwise. It's the principle of the thing to me. And to get ahead of any misunderstanding, I hold absolutely nothing against my trade partner.

    What's crazy is how fast they actually shipped this puppy. I can't believe they had time to tear this box open, pop every single bottle and can, dump them, and repackage it all while still delivering right on its originally scheduled date. It was shipped Monday 10/4, and arrived 10/6, the same as my outgoing package via FedEx. Someone's clearly done this before. And just for full transparency, on 10/6, this shipment was scanned as received at 2:31PM EST, with the above pics being taken at 2:46PM EST, since I work from home and it took a few minutes to yank this sticky mess out of the styrofoam.

    Like, they actually had to have a bottle opener at the ready, and some designated area of a shipping facility to be able to open and dump all this shit. I hope whatever location did this has a stinky ass shitshow on their hands, leaving them with a heap of flies to deal with forever and ever, amen.

    We're still in a pandemic, yet they are content to go through these kinds of measures for paying customers using their service to ship beer. BEER?! This is the kind of puritan ass shit that sometimes makes me hate our society.

    Fuck Mr. Brown.
     
  2. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    And, by the way, do they have a fucking x-ray or some shit?

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  3. AlexIrigoyen

    AlexIrigoyen Zealot (635) Jun 3, 2016 Georgia
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    Where was the box coming from/ do you know what facilities it stopped at along the way?
     
  4. maximum12

    maximum12 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,686) Jan 21, 2008 Minnesota
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    Damn, son. That is messed up right there.
     
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  5. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    10/06/2021
    2:31 P.M.Delivered
    AKRON, OH, US10/06/2021
    9:16 A.M.Out for Delivery
    Akron, OH, United States10/04/2021
    5:43 P.M.Shipped
    Bloomington, IL, United States10/03/2021
    11:04 P.M.Label Created
    United States
     
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  6. colby600

    colby600 Pooh-Bah (1,919) Mar 24, 2015 Connecticut
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    Why did your trading partner send you empties? Also, that's sucks.
     
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  7. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    lol
     
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  8. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    Based on the photos, I originally assumed they had consumed it, then just put back in the empties. Given the timeframe, that seems unlikely. That's crazy right there to just open everything and dump it just to fuck with someone. This obviously isn't company policy - how crazy for someone to get their joys out of doing this.
     
  9. BigIronH

    BigIronH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,762) Oct 31, 2019 Michigan
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    Happened to @Hopelessly0 also. Well, I won’t be shipping my packages UPS this weekend anymore.
     
  10. Rustytacos

    Rustytacos Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2018 California
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    You sir just won the internet, just for today. I chuckled pretty loud, congrats.
     
  11. Rustytacos

    Rustytacos Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2018 California
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    Couldn’t have happened to a better guy!! This guy always gets the good shit, about time something bad happens to this guy!!
     
  12. Hopelessly0

    Hopelessly0 Savant (1,099) May 13, 2019 California
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    LOL ya, this happened to me like 2 years ago! Honestly only recently started using UPS because they can be much cheaper when shipping shippers, but I may have to think twice and just use USPS as my go-to.

    Or I may just try putting the label on the opening of the packages, that way they can't get to the goods without cutting open the label.

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/commun...-beer-trading-experience.656487/#post-7212883
     
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  13. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    I always do this for just this reason. I also use threaded (i.e. reinforced) tape, which makes it 100% obvious that they cut through it. Also, it's a damn pain in the ass to get through - but nothing is more secure.
     
  14. Hopelessly0

    Hopelessly0 Savant (1,099) May 13, 2019 California
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    Strangely enough, I'm also fairly confident when this happened to me last time it was with someone from Ohio as well. Could just be coincidence, but wouldn't surprise me one bit if it was one facility or person that just likes messing with beer traders.
     
  15. TmKeisySC

    TmKeisySC Pundit (974) Apr 20, 2014 South Carolina
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    Did Raj get a job at UPS?
     
  16. Bhubbard34

    Bhubbard34 Pooh-Bah (2,585) Mar 4, 2016 Pennsylvania
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    Damn….I’ve sent / received approximately 50 beer packages in the last 2 1/2 years. Have had maybe 3-4 issues total…and every one with UPS. I always ship Fed Ex and have had zero issues. The issues have always been trade partners that use UPS
     
  17. flat_lander

    flat_lander Pooh-Bah (2,490) May 11, 2016 Illinois
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    I see where you went wrong. Bloomington, IL is home to the ultimate FIBs.
     
  18. Jinx989

    Jinx989 Savant (1,082) Apr 22, 2015 Illinois
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    It was me who shipped those beers to Sabtos and Ive never seen anything like it. I wrapped everything really well and even used the fiber tape under regular packing tape to seal the box and I think I placed the label so it would have to be cut through when opening.I have duplicates of all but one of the beers so I will be sending him a replacement box but sure as fuck wont be using UPS anymore.
     
  19. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    Jeff is the best. I have no words.
     
  20. Rustytacos

    Rustytacos Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2018 California
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    No, Raji would’ve filled it back up again and waxed it, even the cans. For shits and giggles he probably would’ve ask for a 4 pack of allagash white. Don’t ask how I know.
     
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