English Ale appreciation

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  1. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Grand Pooh-Bah (3,732) Sep 15, 2014 Colorado
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    While I am overjoyed at the craft lager renaissance we are currently experiencing in the U.S., I would like to draw attention to just how great English ales are, and how I hope this will be the next big underdog trend in the states. Today I had the distinct pleasure of visiting Hogshead 54 Brewing Company in Denver, and had my first real experience with trying a fresh English dark mild ale on cask. The bittersweet rich malty flavors with creamy soft mouthfeel blew me away. This is a style of session beer I can 100% get behind. I will be visiting this brewery more often and I hope this entire style of beer experiences a revitalization in the U.S. What say the rest of you?

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  2. Rug

    Rug Grand Pooh-Bah (3,454) Aug 20, 2018 Massachusetts
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    Yeah, why the hell not? I'm all for more styles to keep things varied, especially styles that are easily sessionable. I haven't had too many English ales, but that's where my mind goes for easy drinking; ESBs and the like
    I guess that makes you HogsheadHorseheadsHophead :wink:
     
  3. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Grand Pooh-Bah (3,732) Sep 15, 2014 Colorado
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    Hahaha...that's good. :joy:
     
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  4. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Right with ya on this, May all of America soon discover (re-discover?) the impeccable flavors and delicious drinkability of English Ales.
     
  5. keithmurray

    keithmurray Pooh-Bah (2,967) Oct 7, 2009 Connecticut
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    Dear brewers,

    Take the pedal off of the beers on the IPA spectrum and try your hand at English Dark Milds. Thanks.

    K
     
  6. Shanex

    Shanex Grand Pooh-Bah (4,960) Dec 10, 2015 France
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    Despite the Brexit thing, we still get many English Ales for very fair prices. I don’t think they’re underrated in any way, but quite possibly overlooked. As others have stated, they manage to be drinkable, flavorful and yet generally low ABV 5% and often less.

    In this craft beer world of IPA and Stouts (which I both like…) going back to old classic like Bombardier cannot hurt:

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    Sorry if that’s a stock photo as I don’t have one here right now.

    Would recommend anything from Wychwood brewery, by the way.
     
  7. JrGtr

    JrGtr Pooh-Bah (1,775) Apr 13, 2006 Massachusetts
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    Definitely a fan of ritish beers in general. English ales like the Bitter, Mild, etc. Irish stout, Scottish Shilling series... we just don't get enough of them around here.
    And especilly on cask - we're lucky in the Northeast to have NERAX (well, not so much with "all this" going on, but usually...) It's by far my favorite fest I've ever been to.
     
  8. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Was a time, maybe 15/20 years ago, English ales -- especially cask-conditioned, were all the rage.

    Around here different pubs were doing their best to bring in firkins and pins from England and the micros that were brewing them. Brewpubs we're trying their hands at cask-conditioning and you'd see beer engines in a lot of pubs.

    My home-brew club was big into English ales and took annual trips to England as pilgrimage. The Real Ale Festival in Chicago was a big event for a long time from the late 90s thru the 2000s.

    So yeah, bring back the good ol' days! Just shows how trends come and go, I guess.

    "A pint of Bitter wouldn't be a burden!"
     
  9. Amendm

    Amendm Pooh-Bah (2,589) Jun 7, 2018 Rhode Island
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    I recently tried my first ESB, Parliament by Bravo Brewing of scenic Pascoag R.I. This small brewery makes excellent Ales and Lagers with a focus on Euro styles. They offer an English Pale Ale called Union Jack that was a big hit as well as an English Porter named Blue Falcon. The also do German styles with equal precision.

    This is one rare example however hopefully more will follow.

    I would like to see more Eng. Brown Ales, not too many showed up for last weekends Brown Ale tasting. Wormtown Brewery of Worcester Mass. Makes EBA called Blizzard of 78, a winter release that I look forward to.
     
  10. dcotom

    dcotom Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,637) Aug 4, 2014 Iowa
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    I'd love to see it make its way here. Very underrepresented style that deserves respect and appreciation.
     
  11. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Imports in the stores that I frequent do not turn over very quickly, to the point that the variety selection has suffered. I gave up on imports a long time ago before label dating became a 'thing' (other than seasonals). I'll have to look at labels in these stores to see if I can determine freshness of the beers. If they are old then I'll have to look for them in better stores or for American versions during my travels and pub visits. I can say from memory that I never liked old British beers when I was in a learning mode.
     
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  12. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    I'd say don't hold your breath. As @steveh pointed out, the romance of English ales had its moment in craft culture, and it seems to have been on the decline ever since (same for imports). I'm seeing a small resurgence in local 16oz takes on bitter and mild, but for this to be anything more than a tiny noncommittal blip, it needs to have hardware behind it - on the brewing side and serving side. Currently, we're seeing this hardware in the realm of lager brewing... with things like horizontal tanks and side-pull taps. That's where our current old-world romance resides. Beer engines are getting retired rather than installed... and I can't imagine enough people wanting to go back to that rather than pressing on to whatever the next trend will be after this small lager phase. Back when more US brewers were doing cask ale, they had their way with it and mistreated it. That's essentially gone and all that remains are a handful of traditionalists.
     
  13. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    I can't recall if my new favorite brew-pub has a beer engine, but their Best Bitter* wasn't too bad.

    But yeah, their side-pull tap was flowing freely!

    *Just checked their website, sure enough -- cask-conditioned. Guess they're following the traditionalists.
     
  14. DownyIsHungry

    DownyIsHungry Pooh-Bah (1,902) Feb 6, 2015 Minnesota
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    Love Hogshead 54. It is always a treat.
     
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  15. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I hate to say it but I agree with Chris (@zid): "I'd say don't hold your breath."

    There are still a few breweries local to me that produce English style Ales (e.g., Mild Ale, Bitter Ale,...) and some even serve them on cask but these beers do not move quickly. I do appreciate those breweries who are still willing to make English Ales but I suspect it is a 'labor of love' for them. I am pretty certain that the IPAs and other popular styles move waaay better for them.

    FWIW, I brew my own English style ales to satisfy my urges for these sorts of beer. Recently I bottled a batch of Oatmeal Stout and a few months ago my annual batch of Bitter Ale.

    Cheers!
     
  16. miwestcoaster

    miwestcoaster Grand Pooh-Bah (3,981) Jan 19, 2013 Michigan
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    Morland Old Speckled Hen is a readily available English pale ale, and it finds its way into my beer fridge from time to time.
     
  17. hopsputin

    hopsputin Grand Pooh-Bah (4,403) Apr 1, 2012 New Jersey
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    Oh my goodness I need some Landlord on cask stat!

    love love English ales and very much support getting more of them and more cask.
     
  18. 40ontarget

    40ontarget Pundit (998) Feb 7, 2012 Colorado

    I've been here s few times and it's a great place to go. I'm starting to see Chin Wag showing up all over town. So just maybe it is taking off...
     
  19. Urk1127

    Urk1127 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,790) Jul 2, 2014 New Jersey
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    I know nothing about cask or real ale but I love yards brawler and their ESA and I’d drink nothing else ever and that’d be ok
     
  20. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    A decade+ ago I would find Yards ESA on cask at several bars in Philly (and area). Now it is generally only available on 'regular' draft (I did find it once on cask at the brewery a couple/few years ago).

    Cheers to ESA on cask (the good ol' days)!
     
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